[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no medication honestly


i only need my daily dosage of vitamins, A & C every day

if you’re getting them in supplements then that is medication

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Vicky, you could try soya in your diet as this mimicks oestrogen. I would rather try than drugs to begin with

here have been some concerns about the aluminium content in processed soy milks and yoghurts, so it’s advisable to stick to soy in its natural form – tofu, miso, tempeh or tamari – all forms of fermented soy.

Some women have also been put off the use of soy due to its phytoestrogen content, with fears that soy could contribute to oestrogen dominance (an excess of oestrogen), which is known to underlie female cancers such as ovarian and breast cancer. However, soy has a dual effect in the body: stimulating oestrogen receptors where levels are low, and blocking receptors from too much of the hormone where there is an excess. In parts of the world where traditional fermented soy intake is highest, such as Japan, they have a very low rate of these cancers compared to the UK or USA. Soy can therefore have a protective effect, and it does this by helping to block oestrogen receptors, protecting them from excess oestrogen.

Phytoestrogens also have a mild oestrogenic effect in our bodies. To put this into perspective, your own oestrogens are far more potent than phytoestrogens, and external sources of oestrogen, also known as foreign or xenoestrogens, which come from pesticides and pollutants, and are even more potent.

If you are going to supplement soy, make sure it contains all the components of the soy bean, not just the isoflavones. Research has shown that other compounds in soy may help to activate phytoestrogens, and may even help to protect cells from over activation.

Thank you, I will try that.

If it works, I bet the doctors will still claim there is no way it can be caused by hormones. I don't know how they can say that tbh, given the fact that it did go away in pregnancy, and my second pregnancy appears to have inflamed it further.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

if you’re getting them in supplements then that is medication

and no you person needs them as you get them in a balanced diet unless the doctor says that you need extra for an ailment

[Smithy]

I was on 200mg of sertraline for like 18 months or so and then just came straight off of them and the side effects were awful and with what I can only describe as brain zaps, until you experience it you can’t really understand it, but it’s like a (painless) electric shock in your brain where it goes all funny for a couple of seconds, anyway I had to go back on it and then reduce my dosage

I was on propranolol too but now i only pop one in a morning when I feel like I’ll need one (which isn’t very often tbf)

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

if you’re getting them in supplements then that is medication

i just call em vitamins

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i just call em vitamins

doesn’t matter, if you’re taking something to boost your vitamins levels, it’s medication

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and no you person needs them as you get them in a balanced diet unless the doctor says that you need extra for an ailment

what do you meant by “and no you person”

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

doesn’t matter, if you’re taking something to boost your vitamins levels, it’s medication

yeah sure

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah sure

like if it’s pills, injections etc - medication

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

what do you meant by “and no you person”

young...there is a body of evidence that vitamin supplements are unnecessary if you have a balanced diet

I thought the 5 a day thing was a lot of tosh until I read how valuable fruit and veg are to different organs in your body I think you get away with not eating fruit and veg when you are young but as you get older the body needs all the help it can get

[Ant.]

ket

[Nicky91]

pills, i use 4/5 vitamin C pills every morning, and 1 vitamin A pill at dinner, usually with dessert which makes it easier to swallow it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

pills, i use 4/5 vitamin C pills every morning, and 1 vitamin A pill at dinner, usually with dessert which makes it easier to swallow it

but you could get vit c from oranges or berries...

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

young...there is a body of evidence that vitamin supplements are unnecessary if you have a balanced diet

I thought the 5 a day thing was a lot of tosh until I read how valuable fruit and veg are to different organs in your body I think you get away with not eating fruit and veg when you are young but as you get older the body needs all the help it can get

it seems so obvious now you say it...

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

pills, i use 4/5 vitamin C pills every morning, and 1 vitamin A pill at dinner, usually with dessert which makes it easier to swallow it

ok so that is medication

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

but you could get vit c from oranges or berries...

Kiwi's are also rich with vitamin C yes, i don't like oranges though

Originally Posted by Matthew.

ok so that is medication

sure i'd just never called it serious medication before


i even give my dog a vitamin c pill, just 1 and she likes em like they are candy

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i even give my dog a vitamin c pill, just 1 and she likes em like they are candy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

what do you meant by “and no you person”

added you by error

No person should be taking vitamins UNLESS a doctor says so

If you do you have been hoodwinked by advertising

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

added you by error

No person should be taking vitamins UNLESS a doctor says so

If you do you have been hoodwinked by advertising

well i was because the doctor told me to but now i dont

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

well i was because the doctor told me to but now i dont

good, its seems poster Nicky91 has been hoodwinked however

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I was on 200mg of sertraline for like 18 months or so and then just came straight off of them and the side effects were awful and with what I can only describe as brain zaps, until you experience it you can’t really understand it, but it’s like a (painless) electric shock in your brain where it goes all funny for a couple of seconds, anyway I had to go back on it and then reduce my dosage

I was on propranolol too but now i only pop one in a morning when I feel like I’ll need one (which isn’t very often tbf)

I had brain zaps when I stopped raking citalopram without weaning. Like you say, painless but weird all the same. I stuck with it though as I hadn't really needed the citalopram for years.....took about 3 months for them to go entirely although they lessened quite quickly but first few weeks were bad

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Smudgie to live to 140?

I bloody hope not.

[bots]

I have a tube of smarties every week whether i need them or not

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I had brain zaps when I stopped raking citalopram without weaning. Like you say, painless but weird all the same. I stuck with it though as I hadn't really needed the citalopram for years.....took about 3 months for them to go entirely although they lessened quite quickly but first few weeks were bad

I went 3 months off and still had them, so went back to the doctors and they basically told me what I already knew and that I had to go back on them and wean myself off them

£50 down the drain

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I was on 200mg of sertraline for like 18 months or so and then just came straight off of them and the side effects were awful and with what I can only describe as brain zaps, until you experience it you can’t really understand it, but it’s like a (painless) electric shock in your brain where it goes all funny for a couple of seconds, anyway I had to go back on it and then reduce my dosage

I was on propranolol too but now i only pop one in a morning when I feel like I’ll need one (which isn’t very often tbf)

That was a large dose, you must of been in a dark k place.