[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

FFSake take off the victimhood

I am a woman, and always have been, does that mean I cant blame women for anything??

Thats idiotic

I think women have got a bit above themselves with this whole #metoo ****

In fact one of the main characters from that whole f.cking ****storm, Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein of raping her (even after admitting to a 4 years relationship with him AFTER the rape was meant to have happened) has paid off a 17 year old boy, whom she raped when he was 17 and she was 37 years old

Now I know it doesnt have a lot to do with Chloe, but women who act like professional victims really f..k me off

One minute you want to be equal, then more than equal, then every man is a rapist, or kidnapper, or wife beater, or controlling

In all the above cases, including Chloe's THERE WAS A ****ING DOOR, BUT USING IT WOULD HAVE PUT YOU OUT OF WORK, WHETHER YOU ARE A WH.RE AN ACTRESS OR A SUPPOSED KIDNAPPEE

Fantastic post. So many people have experiences that both support and oppose these narratives, yet we only cater to the ones that feed the ideological stances? Such a baseless and unfair accusation to say that people doubt her because she’s female, and the reciprocal of that will be the justice system catering to that, and thus unfair trials. And this is coming from someone who believes Chloe.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

FFSake take off the victimhood

I am a woman, and always have been, does that mean I cant blame women for anything??

Thats idiotic

I think women have got a bit above themselves with this whole #metoo ****

In fact one of the main characters from that whole f.cking ****storm, Asia Argento, who accused Harvey Weinstein of raping her (even after admitting to a 4 years relationship with him AFTER the rape was meant to have happened) has paid off a 17 year old boy, whom she raped when he was 17 and she was 37 years old

Now I know it doesnt have a lot to do with Chloe, but women who act like professional victims really f..k me off

One minute you want to be equal, then more than equal, then every man is a rapist, or kidnapper, or wife beater, or controlling

In all the above cases, including Chloe's THERE WAS A ****ING DOOR, BUT USING IT WOULD HAVE PUT YOU OUT OF WORK, WHETHER YOU ARE A WH.RE AN ACTRESS OR A SUPPOSED KIDNAPPEE

Women can be misogynists too as evidenced by this post.

Saying that women are getting a 'bit above themselves' for shining a light on a culture of sexual abuse says it all really.

[Parmy]

Oh thats who asia thingy is....omg..thats wierd.

[Captain.Remy]

Welp the hurt I have provoked in people's heart is real

[annabelindabee]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So the woman who was tough enough to make up one of the biggest cock and bull stories for years, how now turned into the crying, weak, vulnerable house baby ............. Make it stop Chloe

Ive already posted this on a thread but theres soo many up now that its hard to find so I will post it again....


SHE'S NOT A ****ING LIER! SHE JUST DID NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AT THE BEING...

why are so many people completly ignorant yet happy to insult her over something they have no clue about!




I read up about her story last year and I did not believe it as there was soooo many inconsistencies...

1. She first told people there were 6 kidnappers who did the first kidnapping... yet only one got arrested...

2. She later said they came from behind stuck something in her and the next thing she remembered, was her tied and gagged in a car.... eg if they came from behind how did she know she was attacked by 6 people.

3. she said when in the car she was gagged with her hands behind her back yet she also claims that she was screaming "get me out" and banging on car ... how can she scream and bang if she is gagged and tried.. (if its gagged and tried by an armature then mayby she managed to free herself during the long journey)

4. she talked about the 'black death' sex trafficking ring wanting to sell her into the sex ring... yet the kidnapper asked for a large amount of ransom money off the agent (who is not emotional connected to her) in return for not giving her to this gang... but that did not add up as she said this ring was the ones responsible for attacking and drugging her and she had seen a picture of her unconscious at the time of the attack with a 'deathstar' logo on her..... so if they attacked her, why then is she now with this other guy who is asking for ransom money off someone who will not pay... sex trafficking gangs are very rich and very deadly... hence they would not need to kidnap a girl who is a fairly ugly glamour model from a poor background... these groups won't bother kidnapping girls like her for ransom, they would just pass her on... use her... and thats its... it would be too late to save her... they would only kidnap for ransom children of rich people not poor...

5. but then there were other stories that she said which was that guy who was holding her... he wanted the money so he can pay off this sex ring group as apparently he owned a debt to them and need money to pay of that debt... and agreed to hold her in order to pay off this debt... this sounds crazy as sex trafficking rings would most likely just kill any one who was in bebt to the group not get them to hold a girl in hope of getting an agent to pay money...


6. she said that the guy holding her, tied her up naked to a bed for several days yet after she went out shoe shopping and had breakfast together... eg they acted more like freind not kidnapper and hostages... and she said that she tried to get him to like her by promising that she will be his girlfriend when she gets home...

7. after she got back home she seemed too clam too happy and was happy to wear trashy yet sexy clothing when taking to the press about the ordeal! that seemed like a publicity stunt...

None of these stories added up... This is why people like me did not believe her...




Recently I researched futher and I believe I know the truth:

1: she did not see how many people it was that drudged she was just told by him that it was 6 but he was lying to her!

2: there was a picture but it was not taken by a sex ring it was taken by the kidnapper to scare her and make her feel that the threat was not from the kidnapper but was from a much bigger group but this was all his lies to get her to not run away from him... she believed these lies for many months after ... I think she only found out near court time that this group never existed!

3. she was tied up in the farm house but she only ever saw one guy (and maybe the brother at times) but he told lots of lies to her that she did not know what to believe...

4. after days of being lied to she just thought that the best was to survive was to be this guys freind and hope that he would let her go... but because she was more scared of this group that did not existed, she saw her kidnapper as her protector and not her enemy... that's why she was not scared when press talked to her because she thought her kidnapper was trying to save her from this group that she never actually came into contact with...

Thats why people dont believe her as her early stories were about this fake sex ring ... but later only this one guy was arrested...

He was arrested as he kidnapped and drugged her (with help of his brother), but he did not want her to think it was his idea... she only found out the truth later as the investigators found out the truth only later... that why her story changed!
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[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by annabelindabee

Ive already posted this on a thread but theres soo many up now that its hard to find so I will post it again....


SHE'S NOT A ****ING LIER! SHE JUST DID NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AT THE BEING...

why are so many people completly ignorant yet happy to insult her over something they have no clue about!




I read up about her story last year and I did not believe it as there was soooo many inconsistencies...

1. She first told people there were 6 kidnappers who did the first kidnapping... yet only one got arrested...

2. She later said they came from behind stuck something in her and the next thing she remembered, was her tied and gagged in a car.... eg if they came from behind how did she know she was attacked by 6 people.

3. she said when in the car she was gagged with her hands behind her back yet she also claims that she was screaming "get me out" and banging on car ... how can she scream and bang if she is gagged and tried.. (if its gagged and tried by an armature then mayby she managed to free herself during the long journey)

4. she talked about the 'black death' sex trafficking ring wanting to sell her into the sex ring... yet the kidnapper asked for a large amount of ransom money off the agent (who is not emotional connected to her) in return for not giving her to this gang... but that did not add up as she said this ring was the ones responsible for attacking and drugging her and she had seen a picture of her unconscious at the time of the attack with a 'deathstar' logo on her..... so if they attacked her, why then is she now with this other guy who is asking for ransom money off someone who will not pay... sex trafficking gangs are very rich and very deadly... hence they would not need to kidnap a girl who is a fairly ugly glamour model from a poor background... these groups won't bother kidnapping girls like her for ransom, they would just pass her on... use her... and thats its... it would be too late to save her... they would only kidnap for ransom children of rich people not poor...

5. but then there were other stories that she said which was that guy who was holding her... he wanted the money so he can pay off this sex ring group as apparently he owned a debt to them and need money to pay of that debt... and agreed to hold her in order to pay off this debt... this sounds crazy as sex trafficking rings would most likely just kill any one who was in bebt to the group not get them to hold a girl in hope of getting an agent to pay money...


6. she said that the guy holding her, tied her up naked to a bed for several days yet after she went out shoe shopping and had breakfast together... eg they acted more like freind not kidnapper and hostages... and she said that she tried to get him to like her by promising that she will be his girlfriend when she gets home...

7. after she got back home she seemed too clam too happy and was happy to wear trashy yet sexy clothing when taking to the press about the ordeal! that seemed like a publicity stunt...

None of these stories added up... This is why people like me did not believe her...




Recently I researched futher and I believe I know the truth:

1: she did not see how many people it was that drudged she was just told by him that it was 6 but he was lying to her!

2: there was a picture but it was not taken by a sex ring it was taken by the kidnapper to scare her and make her feel that the threat was not from the kidnapper but was from a much bigger group but this was all his lies to get her to not run away from him... she believed these lies for many months after ... I think she only found out near court time that this group never existed!

3. she was tied up in the farm house but she only ever saw one guy (and maybe the brother at times) but he told lots of lies to her that she did not know what to believe...

4. after days of being lied to she just thought that the best was to survive was to be this guys freind and hope that he would let her go... but because she was more scared of this group that did not existed, she saw her kidnapper as her protector and not her enemy... that's why she was not scared when press talked to her because she thought her kidnapper was trying to save her from this group that she never actually came into contact with...

Thats why people dont believe her as her early stories were about this fake sex ring ... but later only this one guy was arrested...

He was arrested as he kidnapped and drugged her (with help of his brother), but he did not want her to think it was his idea... she only found out the truth later as the investigators found out the truth only later... that why her story changed!
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On EVERY video of her in interviews she has said there were 2 ,then 3 how kidnapped her

[annabelindabee]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

On EVERY video of her in interviews she has said there were 2 ,then 3 how kidnapped her

i heard 2, 3 and 6... the truth is she did not see more than two but they came from behind and he told her there were up to 6, may it changed to 3 as she began to see through his lies...... just because she did not see, how many people came up from behind her. that does not mean it it not happen to her.... it would happen very fast! and it would have been completely unexpected

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bottom line is I don't like liars, you really ought to look more into the case and stop believing the red tops

bottom line is you don't like her and you are accusing her of being a lair in hope of putting some scene to back up your hatred for her!!! and by calling her names you hope to get others to hate her twoo...


i mean why is it even possible that i dont believe that a idiot guy held her for ransom money for 6 days... its not even a massive story... the story involving the traffic sex ring is really bad, but that was just him just lying to her, why do you even find this hard to believe!

[Tom4784]

It basically comes down to 'I don't like Chloe so she must be lying even though there's evidence that convicted the kidnapper but I won't acknowledge it since I want to believe she is lying and that evidence doesn't fit my narrative.'

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It basically comes down to 'I don't like Chloe so she must be lying even though there's evidence that convicted the kidnapper but I won't acknowledge it since I want to believe she is lying and that evidence doesn't fit my narrative.'

Bottom line is I don't like liars, you really ought to look more into the case and stop believing the red tops

[Tom4784]

I believe the courts that had all the evidence and convicted him of the crimes. I believe facts over what is a narrative spun by hate.

Weren't the red tops the ones that doubted her in the first place? Bit of a strange comment there, chuff.

[Captain.Remy]

The TIBB investigators are out there serving JUSTICE realnessss

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So the woman who was tough enough to make up one of the biggest cock and bull stories for years, how now turned into the crying, weak, vulnerable house baby ............. Make it stop Chloe

Chloe is another Jess from CBB21 . They always call the younger housemates "the baby" , i still don't know what to make of Chloe ,I think she's odd and comes across vulnerable one minute but the next she's got that front like she's OK . she's fitting in more with Jermaine ,Gabby & Dan but she still seems awkward socially.

Hardeep keeps trying to be a weird father figure to her and Roxy .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Chloe is another Jess from CBB21 . They always call the younger housemates "the baby" , i still don't know what to make of Chloe ,I think she's odd and comes across vulnerable one minute but the next she's got that front like she's OK . she's fitting in more with Jermaine ,Gabby & Dan but she still seems awkward socially.

Hardeep keeps trying to be a weird father figure to her and Roxy .

She's all over Hardeep like a cheap suit !! He needs to be very careful

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She's all over Hardeep like a cheap suit !! He needs to be very careful

I don't think Hardeep has learnt his lesson, he got into trouble for being too friendly in his career .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think Hardeep has learnt his lesson, he got into trouble for being too friendly in his career .

No he didn't. He got into trouble for making an inappropriate comment.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No he didn't. He got into trouble for making an inappropriate comment.

What about the "hug" ? , didn't he innapropratly touch the person ? Hardeep isn't open about discussing it though .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think Hardeep has learnt his lesson, he got into trouble for being too friendly in his career .

She's going to push it with him, then go in diary room, turn on the water works and get him removed ......... Oh yes and then write a book about it and go on chat shows to tell us all about ......... Deja Vu

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think Hardeep has learnt his lesson, he got into trouble for being too friendly in his career .

It’s kind of ironic. The same overly pc ‘protect the delicate waymens’ culture he’s playing into was the same one that spited him and ended his career. You’d think he’d be the last one to be a staunch feminist.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Imagine hating someone like this