[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Agreed. His mind is in the sewer. If any of the other guys oggled women as he oggled men they would be labeled perverts. Double standards without doubt.

Errrrr they all do ... apart from Irish guy who's also gay and Cameron who seems confused


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[saiwong]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Agreed. His mind is in the sewer. If any of the other guys oggled women as he oggled men they would be labeled perverts. Double standards without doubt.

I think he is ok.... but yes he is overrated

I think in this political correctness climate people automatically support him because of what he "represents", a gender fluid cross dresser. Having good one-liners also helps build his support.


However, I do agree with others that their are double standards with regard to comments and action. For example, when he ogled the men oiling themselves in the garden (sun tan lotion) the general public reaction is of humour and it is perceived as light fun. However, if he was a straight man ogling women, he would be condemned as a male chauvinist pig and fans would demand for him to be voted out the show

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by saiwong

I think he is ok.... but yes he is overrated

I think in this political correctness climate people automatically support him because of what he "represents", a gender fluid cross dresser. Having good one-liners also helps build his support.


However, I do agree with others that their are double standards with regard to comments and action. For example, when he ogled the men oiling themselves in the garden (sun tan lotion) the general public reaction is of humour and it is perceived as light fun. However, if he was a straight man ogling women, he would be condemned as a male chauvinist pig and fans would demand for him to be voted out the show

for sure, and if a 31 year old straight male started giving tips to an 18 year old lesbian many eyebrows would be raised He gets a pass because people think he is harmless

[saiwong]

Originally Posted by Cherie

for sure, and if a 31 year old straight male started giving tips to an 18 year old lesbian many eyebrows would be raised He gets a pass because people think he is harmless

yes, double standard

gender fluid and/or LGBT = harmless

straight = scum

[bots]

we are getting more sex talk from him tonight .... going off him fast

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we are getting more sex talk from him tonight .... going off him fast

Sleazy, isn't he?

[Cherie]

Giving 18 year old Cameron tips ...just no

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Sleazy, isn't he?

Seeming extremely obsessed with sex. Very blunt/OTT language used too when talking about it. I am certainly no prude..but..makes me really

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Seeming extremely obsessed with sex. Very blunt/OTT language used too when talking about it. I am certainly no prude..but..makes me really

Me too....so shallow. I thought he might be better than that...it doesn't help that he looks so unkempt..

[bots]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Me too....so shallow. I thought he might be better than that...it doesn't help that he looks so unkempt..

i'm all for people having a bit of a laugh and being individual, but the more we see and hear of Tomasz, the more I see a pervert

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we are getting more sex talk from him tonight .... going off him fast

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Seeming extremely obsessed with sex. Very blunt/OTT language used too when talking about it. I am certainly no prude..but..makes me really

Yeah I noticed that on one of the last episodes... he does seem to be sex-centric. I think most of them are to some degree... seeing as so many of them are still so young... and very aware of other HM's specific interests...

[Ammi]

.....hmmm it’s always interesting that sexual talk seems to be a no, no with fans in comparison to awful or mean spirited characteristics in a housemate...things that are done toward a fellow housemate or fellow housemates...They’ve all talked about sex so far as I can see...I recall Lewis G saying he had handcuffs on his bed or something...and there was a whole conversation which evolved form that...and they’ve discussed sex parties etc...in an environment where there is no TV, no books to read etc..nothing in the way of chill down entertainment..?...and especially when it’s all younger housemates...the sex chats will inevitably happen..and that’s fine also, it’s part of what younger people do and talk about ...maybe if there were older housemates as well, then they would be more inclined to move the conversations elsewhere...but they are all younger and mainly single, so it’s bound to happen...

Youtube video

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....hmmm it’s always interesting that sexual talk seems to be a no, no with fans in comparison to awful or mean spirited characteristics in a housemate...things that are done toward a fellow housemate or fellow housemates...They’ve all talked about sex so far as I can see...I recall Lewis G saying he had handcuffs on his bed or something...and there was a whole conversation which evolved form that...and they’ve discussed sex parties etc...in an environment where there is no TV, no books to read etc..nothing in the way of chill down entertainment..?...and especially when it’s all younger housemates...the sex chats will inevitably happen..and that’s fine also, it’s part of what younger people do and talk about ...maybe if there were older housemates as well, then they would be more inclined to move the conversations elsewhere...but they are all younger and mainly single, so it’s bound to happen...

Youtube video

Ammi, you are a rational queen.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Ammi;10245192].....hmmm it’s always interesting that sexual talk seems to be a no, no with fans in comparison to awful or mean spirited characteristics in a housemate...things that are done toward a fellow housemate or fellow housemates...They’ve all talked about sex so far as I can see...I recall Lewis G saying he had handcuffs on his bed or something...and there was a whole conversation which evolved form that...and they’ve discussed sex parties etc...in an environment where there is no TV, no books to read etc..nothing in the way of chill down entertainment..?...and especially when it’s all younger housemates...the sex chats will inevitably happen..and that’s fine also, it’s part of what younger people do and talk about ...maybe if there were older housemates as well, then they would be more inclined to move the conversations elsewhere...but they are all younger and mainly single, so it’s bound to happen...

Tomasz is 31, not sure he can be classed as a 'young housemate', I don't have a problem with hms talking about sex, it just seems its his main topic of conversation

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tomasz is 31, not sure he can be classed as a 'young housemate', I don't have a problem with hms talking about sex, it just seems its his main topic of conversation

I'm 33, and there's plenty of older folk here who would laugh directly in my face if I dared to call myself anything but a young'un. It is quite funny. I'm too "old" to fit in with the younger college demographic and yet the older generations just aren't ready to accept me into their more experienced coven just yet... I'm coven-less

[Dolce]

He’s alright, not the worst, not the best.

[smudgie]

Gameplayer, he has his moments but not too sure about him as yet.

[Twosugars]

His sex tips to Cameron were very sensible: practical advice to use hands not just penis to please the partner and general advice that sex is better in a loving relationship.

Beats any advice Lewis G or Isaac might have given. Which would be something like smash and grab, or should I say grab and smash.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

His sex tips to Cameron were very sensible: practical advice to use hands not just penis to please the partner and general advice that sex is better in a loving relationship.

Beats any advice Lewis G or Isaac might have given. Which would be something like smash and grab, or should I say grab and smash.

Unless Cameron has lived under a stone I think he know what hands are for in relation to sex

[kingston]

I wanted to hate him as I do think his archetype has been played to death but I can’t... He’s proven himself to be a pretty likeable and funny guy...

[Epic.]

Natasha Hamilton says hi

[mr rochester]

Don’t get all the ‘love’ for him...it’s the kind of love you express for a cute animal or someone you feel sorry for. I don’t find him cute and can’t patronise him, so in general I have no interest in him.

[wendywillow]

I like him, he's funny but BOTS obsession with him is over the top, he should have no problem making the final, eventually he and Lewis G should clash which will be interesting

[Jordan.]

That's Aaron from BB12

[bots]

Welcome back Chuff, I was wondering where you were