[Ammi]

...I think Kay and Lewis are just too similar to each other with how they overthink...and because they have felt a connection and friendship, they both just have to say and point out what they feel are the faults of the other one...they both find it difficult if they feel they may he been misunderstood in how they may have been shown to the public...Lewis I think is a bit more overbearing but I think that’s more an alcohol induced thing....when he suggested the prank on Cameron and Cian pointed out the cruelty of it...he just then wanted to go to bed and not talk about it ...However well intentioned, Kay didn’t really respect that, which was obviously annoying for him...Kay made it clear that she didn’t want to talk about their differences last night and Lewis didn’t respect that...he had to get his thoughts across ...as she had, had to get her thoughts across to him the evening before...?...a similarity, a pattern.....neither of them are awful I don’t think...but they have some personality similarities that have begun to clash ..there doesn’t have to be a right or wrong and there doesn’t have to be a good or bad..and I don’t think there is with those two...they both need their own spaces at times and for their own reasons...but they have to realise that neither give those own same spaces to each other...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.

Because someone said is is cold where they were sitting in the smoking bit so she went and sat in the sun, where was the issue, LF doesn't own the garden

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I agree...and why the hell is a walker allowed on BBOTS?

its not the first time. they've done that plenty.

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was the one that sought her out, he asked to speak to her about the argument the night before, after they had already made up about it, she said she wanted to move on from it, it was obviously bothering him that he came out of it looking bad so he wanted to shift the blame onto Kay so he kept going on and on and on and on, his voice escalating and then when she wouldn't bite he stood over her..then to cap it off he managed to make Cameron feel it was all his fault right at the end, he really is truly awful

that was my main issue with it. he sought her out. i also thought he would make it worse to seem like it was all her fault when HM were there & walking in & out.

Originally Posted by Cherie

Because someone said is is cold where they were sitting in the smoking bit so she went and sat in the sun, where was the issue, LF doesn't own the garden

i could see why some would see that she did it to be antagonizing but she wasnt that close to him. she sat on the chair farthest away that was actually in the sun at least lol

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Because someone said is is cold where they were sitting in the smoking bit so she went and sat in the sun, where was the issue, LF doesn't own the garden

Was about to post this, another good post cherie

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.

Ugh we love t

[Spoon]

Lewis was unrelentingly terrible to her during their "conversation" tonight. She never should have been cast, as she was always going to be a walker, but he would just not leave her alone.

[Beso]

Bb should have called him into the diary room and said "hey mate, are you deaf. She said no, not tonight"

He's probably the same when a girl says no to Sex.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Bb should have called him into the diary room and said "hey mate, are you deaf. She said no, not tonight"

He's probably the same when a girl says no to Sex.

...well he probably isn’t because one thing does not link to the other at all...and when did BB call housemates into the diary room with potential drama situations occurring that had benign content...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well he probably isn’t because one thing does not link to the other at all...and when did BB call housemates into the diary room with potential drama situations occurring that had benign content...

I don't know why it's beyond the realms of reality.. He never listen when he's had a drink.

BB knew she was in the edge of leaving and should have noticed what WA triggering her wanting to leave..... Yet they allowed him to get in her face again after she made it very clear it was draining her...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't know why it's beyond the realms of reality.. He never listen when he's had a drink.

BB knew she was in the edge of leaving and should have noticed what WA triggering her wanting to leave..... Yet they allowed him to get in her face again after she made it very clear it was draining her...

...lots of people never listen when they’ve had a good old drink...alcohol is something that impacts on the powers of listening and thinking etc...and that’s very much displayed with Lewis also...but there has been no indication whatsoever of ‘if a girl said no to sex’...and tbh that’s an bizarre thing to suggest and to link to any of his behaviour displayed in the house when he’s been drinking...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't know why it's beyond the realms of reality.. He never listen when he's had a drink.

BB knew she was in the edge of leaving and should have noticed what WA triggering her wanting to leave..... Yet they allowed him to get in her face again after she made it very clear it was draining her...

...I love Kay but we’re BB to give her some kind of special treatment, treat her with delicacy ...no one must upset Kay because she’s particularly fragile atm...

[Ammi]

...tbh, Kay seemed so drained that it wouldn’t have taken much anyway...whether it be yesterday, today or tomorrow...she was on the edge of the door and always going to go through it before she was evicted...and I’m glad she did, I would have hated for her to be evicted to boos...which I fear she would have been...let the lovely butterfly fly away ...

[Beso]

And they called hughie into the diary room every argument he had........so?

[poppsywoppsy]

I cannot. Understand why people cannot get that there were faults on both sides.

They made a toxic pair, however many times they tried to make up.

Kay was not blameless as was not Lewis. It's not rocket science.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I cannot. Understand why people cannot get that there were faults on both sides.

They made a toxic pair, however many times they tried to make up.

Kay was not blameless as was not Lewis. It's not rocket science.

Yeah they're both argumentative .
Difference is Lewis gets louder & shows his temper.
Kay does the emotional display.

[Vanessa]

Like i said, both in the wrong.

[tanussa]

because lewis had really liked kay in the beginning, her mood swings then baffled him, especially when she turned on him. so he felt the only way to sort it was to confront it if they were to continue a friendship. on reflection it was the wrong decision because instead of talking it out she decided to play the poor little victim again. had she chatted I doubt lewis would have got so frustrated. I'm not saying he was 100% right, but then who is

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by tanussa

because lewis had really liked kay in the beginning, her mood swings then baffled him, especially when she turned on him. so he felt the only way to sort it was to confront it if they were to continue a friendship. on reflection it was the wrong decision because instead of talking it out she decided to play the poor little victim again. had she chatted I doubt lewis would have got so frustrated. I'm not saying he was 100% right, but then who is

I'm just glad we had a lucky escape from another CHIGGY BB 8 .

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm just glad we had a lucky escape from another CHIGGY BB 8 .

They would have been worse

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They would have been worse

Probably

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They would have been worse

Maybe as well the celibacy thing is affecting his brain a bit

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Maybe as well the celibacy thing is affecting his brain a bit

I can help with that

[Brother Leon]

Could tell the guy was a prick from day. Some were too blind to it just because he rivaled a couple people they hate.

[fred7853]

He acts like a Billy no mates. He thinks his opinions are the only ones that matter and he is never ever wrong. Total prick

[Amy Jade]

Imagine attacking someone who was admittedly struggling in the house and when she refused to fight back because she was too upset, going to other housemates and slagging her off.

He's a really horrible guy and seems to anger very quickly towards women.