[AnnieK]

When I was at primary school, the best teacher there had to retire when they stopped being able to use corporal punishment. She rarely did but the option was there and she ruled by fear, will seem alien now but when you were under threat of the shakermaker (she would hold you by the shoulders and shake you) you did as you were told

I don't think schools should be able to physically discipline and as a parent I have never smacked my son BUT there is a genuine lack of respect from some kids now.....although I may just notice it more now I'm older and can the classic "in my day...." lines

[Vicky.]

I do think everything is a bit too soft these days. Also I have in the past been 'told off' by our health visitor for raising my voice at the kids when they were being little twats (I didn't CALL them little twats)...apparently its 'emotional abuse' and you should never raise your voice. Erm. Sorry but if I never raised my voice at mine, they would never hear me, I almost HAVE to shout at times...

Edit. Have never got wrong for grounding, naughty step etc though, helath visitor actually recommended those kinds of punishments to me. But was a bit wishy washy saying 'positive reinforcement is better than negative'..which overall I agree with but positive does not always work and sometimes we resort to fave toys being taken away for a day or whatever.

[Alf]

I was at the epicentre of the big change in schools. When I was in primary school there was corporal punishment, when I went to senior school, it was finished. I saw the difference first hand.

In primary school the teachers ruled and the kids behaved, at senior school, the kids were crazy and the teachers used to run out of class crying.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

I was at the epicentre of the big change in schools. When I was in primary school there was corporal punishment, when I went to senior school, it was finished. I saw the difference first hand.

In primary school the teachers ruled and the kids behaved, at senior school, the kids were crazy and the teachers used to run out of class crying.

I wouldnt be a teacher for a gold pig !

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wouldnt be a teacher for a gold pig !

You should write a book with your sayings Chuff, never heard of most of them

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You should write a book with your sayings Chuff, never heard of most of them

I agree,some are hilarious never heard of this one.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree,some are hilarious never heard of this one.

It must be a Yorkshire saying

[Vicky.]

Something really does need to be done like, I have no idea what but its not my job to come up with solutions. As teachers are having a horrendous time of it, especially in senior schools. Kids just do not listen, as they know they cannot be punished.

Mind, there was no corporal punishment when I was at school, and we still would not have dared go on like some today do. I think todays behaviour is a mix between knowing teachers can't really do anything AND having parents that don't care. See when I got detentions, my parents went off it with me and punished me at home too. That doesn't seem to happen these days and parents seem unconcerned about how their kids go on. Theres the 'noone should tell off my kids but me' element too. Have had issues with a parent like that in a play area, this parent was sat watching their kid BITE my daughter, she kept trying to get away and this kid was chasing her. Damn right I told him he was horrible...oddly enough then the parent decided they could say something and came to try and blast ME for telling her kid to stop assaulting my (at the time) 3 year old!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Something really does need to be done like, I have no idea what but its not my job to come up with solutions. As teachers are having a horrendous time of it, especially in senior schools. Kids just do not listen, as they know they cannot be punished.

Mind, there was no corporal punishment when I was at school, and we still would not have dared go on like some today do. I think todays behaviour is a mix between knowing teachers can't really do anything AND having parents that don't care. See when I got detentions, my parents went off it with me and punished me at home too. That doesn't seem to happen these days and parents seem unconcerned about how their kids go on. Theres the 'noone should tell off my kids but me' element too. Have had issues with a parent like that in a play area, this parent was sat watching their kid BITE my daughter, she kept trying to get away and this kid was chasing her. Damn right I told him he was horrible...oddly enough then the parent decided they could say something and came to try and blast ME for telling her kid to stop assaulting my (at the time) 3 year old!

Yeah actually alot of the problem is also parents not backing up the teacher and taking the kids side no matter what. If you, as a kid think you can get your teacher in trouble for giving out to you then there would be no fear of repercussions in school

[Liam-]

Yeah me saying ‘being back the cane’ definitely wasn’t a serious suggestion on my part