[ttw]

Originally posted by sunlight

are you black. well iam half black/asian and i don't hear black people use that word much. anyway why as this turned into a 'diss black people' thread.

im half black, where do u live?
i live in london and hear it all the time, when i was in school when i was in college, when i go 2 clubs, in social situations, british rappers also use it (not just american ones) ever watch channel u?

Believe me, it is used, alot.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by sunlight
anyway why as this turned into a 'diss black people' thread.

I just wish I could understand how you came to that conclusion.

[DavinaRocks]

I'm sure if Charley would've called another housemate the n word she too would've been kicked out.

[InTheHood]

As a black man, I can't say what Emily said offended me as such, on the mere basis that she is uneducated and din't have a clue what she was talking about.

I'd rather not hear it, but she genuinely was so thick...

The thing that gets me more, is the women trying to get Ziggy's towel off. If a bunch of men done that to a woman, trouble would be ahead.

Also, Charley taking the pee out of Chanelle's voice....how is that now discriminatory? It happened in CBB and was picked up when Jade/Jo did it etc.

It's just BB's chance to put things right (if possible) after CBB.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by InTheHood

Also, Charley taking the pee out of Chanelle's voice.

Yeah, shame Charley didnt realise her skanky accent doesnt even compare to the heavenly accent God gave to all the people of his county.... YORKSHIRE!

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by bringbackscience

Yeah, shame Charley didnt realise her skanky accent doesnt even compare to the heavenly accent God gave to all the people of his county.... YORKSHIRE!

Geoff Boycott

Not that i'm a Yorkshireman

[Lance]

Heya, ITH

Good to see you back!

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by InTheHood

Not that i'm a Yorkshireman

Oh, I am sorry about that but I suppose everybody couldn't be privileged

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by Lance
Heya, ITH

Good to see you back!

Hi Lance

I think i'm about to upset one or two

Hope you are well

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by bringbackscience

Oh, I am sorry about that but I suppose everybody couldn't be privileged

Oh i'm priveliged, just in other areas

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by InTheHood

Oh i'm priveliged, just in other areas

[Turrican]

i'm sick of hearing people say "rappers use it, so it's OK!!!" That is the worst possible arguement ever. If we all lived by the rules of "rap music" there would be no-one alive - they'd all be shot dead after being called a "biatch a$$ N*****" for being in the wrong "hood".

Rap music is not an excuse to use racism.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Turrican
i'm sick of hearing people say "rappers use it, so it's OK!!!" That is the worst possible arguement ever. If we all lived by the rules of "rap music" there would be no-one alive - they'd all be shot dead after being called a "biatch a$$ N*****" for being in the wrong "hood".

Rap music is not an excuse to use racism.

Agree, her argument was terrible, she used that word, even if she heard it in rap music, that's not an excuse to say that.

[Bells]

There's a difference between calling yourself one when you are one, and someone else who's only known you 5 days or so saying it. Charley was clearly affected by it, even if not affected, she was shocked - otherwise she wouldn't keep bringing it up. I'd say it would have been double standards if another black HM had said it to Charley, and then Emily, and then only the one was punished.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Turrican
i'm sick of hearing people say "rappers use it, so it's OK!!!" That is the worst possible arguement ever. If we all lived by the rules of "rap music" there would be no-one alive - they'd all be shot dead after being called a "biatch a$$ N*****" for being in the wrong "hood".

Rap music is not an excuse to use racism.

When will people ever understand. A word in itself is not racist. It is the intent in which a word is used that makes a word racist........

There wa an excellent oldie fim which is now no longer shown exept modern inferior versions....That film was titled

Ten little ****** boys. A very good who dun it thriller for its day... Was the author intending offence by the use of the word.......was the film racial...Of course not. It is the intent that matters.

Like sex racism can exist just n the mind and people will see it because thats the emotion they want to see in order to convince themselves what goody goody people they are........

Some of those same people on the forums in general (note I am not targeting any individual here with this comment) will be quite happy to refer to female contestants as slags or sluts without regard to hurting family and friends of such contestants.

When it comes to offensive words and the use of people need to put their own house in order first.......

[sunlight]

Originally posted by InTheHood
As a black man, I can't say what Emily said offended me as such, on the mere basis that she is uneducated and din't have a clue what she was talking about.

I'd rather not hear it, but she genuinely was so thick...

The thing that gets me more, is the women trying to get Ziggy's towel off. If a bunch of men done that to a woman, trouble would be ahead.

Also, Charley taking the pee out of Chanelle's voice....how is that now discriminatory? It happened in CBB and was picked up when Jade/Jo did it etc.

It's just BB's chance to put things right (if possible) after CBB.

your a black man. mmmmmmmmm. anyway when did you ever hear of someone been killed by another british person because of an british accent. people are attacked and killed everyday around the world because of the colour of their skin. and the reason why people made a fuss over jade and co making fun of shilpa's accent was because she had only just came from india and it could be seen as racist. as far as i know chanelle and charley are both british. and before i go ash from bb 7 used to make fun of black accents all the time nothing was said than. and in bb 6 anthony used to call derek (a black man) malteaser head.

[Fom]

Originally posted by sunlight
i am shocked how little respect some people on here have for black people whenever the 'n' word is used they use american rappers as an example. this is britan not america that word is not used by black people in this country often.

im shockd at the lack of respect too white ppl.
bb's choice was racist, no question about it.

[lily.]

Originally posted by Lance
She was thrown out on the grounds that she used an offensive word.

Charley also used it. Black or not, deserved the same punishment.

I agree. I said the same thing when I was watching the show last night. None of the HMs should be able to say it in my opinion. It's a word I have never and would never use.

[sunlight]

Originally posted by Fom

Im shockd at the lack of respect too white people.
bb's choice was racist, no question about it.

sitting down in the garden chatting charley says something and emily says push it out you n****. aimed at charley. i give up if you don't see the wrong in that than race relations needs to be taught in schools. ps please stop blaming charley for emily's actions it's just stupid.

[Turrican]

Originally posted by bananarama

When will people ever understand. A word in itself is not racist. It is the intent in which a word is used that makes a word racist........

There wa an excellent oldie fim which is now no longer shown exept modern inferior versions....That film was titled

Ten little ****** boys. A very good who dun it thriller for its day... Was the author intending offence by the use of the word.......was the film racial...Of course not. It is the intent that matters.

Like sex racism can exist just n the mind and people will see it because thats the emotion they want to see in order to convince themselves what goody goody people they are........

Some of those same people on the forums in general (note I am not targeting any individual here with this comment) will be quite happy to refer to female contestants as slags or sluts without regard to hurting family and friends of such contestants.

When it comes to offensive words and the use of people need to put their own house in order first.......

You're wrong. A word in itself can be racist. The N word is used to describe black people in a degrading and humiliating way - refering to how they were SLAVES FOR WHITE PEOPLE.

Clearly this is not a nice word, in whatever context.

[Fom]

its an offensive word, yes.
but black ppl cant use it aswell.
its not a black only word, they cant use it either.

[stella]

Do Asians go around calling each other p**is, or [Shilpa] Poppadom? Do they joke about each other living in slums and tell each other to "go home"? No, the Shilpa case was different, there were 3/4 people bullying her, who disliked her for other reasons but used racist and offensive terms towards her.

I'm only saying that it's unfair that it's OK for black people to call each other n****r, but if a white person says it, there's frenzy. There's no need for it.

And I'm not sticking up for Emily, I just think it's unfair that she'll now live with this for the rest of her life. What she said was stupid and also unnecessary.

Yes asians do call each other and themselfs ****'s ive seen it on a bebo website some girl calling herself a pakiprincess amongst others doing the same

[Bells]

A lot of Asians who call themselves terms like that do it to ease the pain and humiliation they feel when a person of a difference race calls them it. And they say it amongst themselves in a way so that it's almost ridiculing people who call them it; making themselves feel comfortable when they're together, in other words. It does not mean they like the term. Well, normal ones don't.

So I don't understand why anyone should say it to them and make them feel hurt/confused in the first place. Most of the Asian teenagers you'll see these days suffer from personality complexes - they're confused, so they try and put on a sort of 'hard' image so they don't get picked on, and act like it doesn't bother them... and it's developed. I know that for a fact.

People should think very carefully before they speak for others.

[sunlight]

Originally posted by Fom
its an offensive word, yes.
but black people cant use it aswell.
its not a black only word, they cant use it either.

why do u keep saying black people can't use it either. most black people who use it are rappers or black americans i'm not a rapper or an american don't blame me or other black people for their actions. i wouldn't say all white people are racists so don't make it a blame black people thread. emily did the wrong not us. or even you so stop sticking up for someone who doesn't deserve it.

[sunlight]

Originally posted by Ash
A lot of Asians who call themselves terms like that do it to ease the pain and humiliation they feel when a person of a difference race calls them it. And they say it amongst themselves in a way so that it's almost ridiculing people who call them it; making themselves feel comfortable when they're together, in other words. It does not mean they like the term. Well, normal ones don't.

So I don't understand why anyone should say it to them and make them feel hurt/confused in the first place. Most of the Asian teenagers you'll see these days suffer from personality complexes - they're confused, so they try and put on a sort of 'hard' image so they don't get picked on, and act like it doesn't bother them... and it's developed. I know that for a fact.

People should think very carefully before they speak for others.

i agree that's the reason some black people use it as well. been half asian half black i know why some asian and black people use them words about themselfs even though i strongly disagree with it.