[Shaun]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Nothing will actually work because it's not based on talent or entertainment, it's based on how the other countries will always vote for each other instead of us

yes, countries like the Netherlands and Israel have a whole bunch of European neighbours that reliably give them 12pts... so bored of seeing this complaint.

Last night the only noticeable "neighbour trade-offs" that made no sense since everyone else rated them averagely were:
- Greece/Cyprus
- Slovenia/Czech Republic
- and San Marino/Italy

Also, Australia have been in the top 10 every time since competing (I think). Where're the neighbours?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Shaun

yes, countries like the Netherlands and Israel have a whole bunch of European neighbours that reliably give them 12pts... so bored of seeing this complaint.

Last night the only noticeable "neighbour trade-offs" that made no sense since everyone else rated them averagely were:
- Greece/Cyprus
- Slovenia/Czech Republic
- and San Marino/Italy

And Russia/Azerbaijan

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Adam.

And Russia/Azerbaijan

But minus Czech republic and Slovenia bc they're not neighbours. Czech republic and Slovakia are

[Christmas Dynasnow]

we send rubbish, like last night, we dont understand what it takes to win and think that sending kids singing lyrics they neither understand or believe in will do well

fundamentally we dont get it anymore, sadly


a good song will always beat the nepotism and border cheatery

[Parmy]

Terry wogan did a better job.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The national finals are not working neither were the famous acts they got so what next?

Find a Rock Band

[Saph]

send charli xcx with a bop

[Merry Mockmas]

There's three things we need to fix for next year's Eurovision.

1. Stop making songs about love, peace and harmony, nearly every UK entry is about this and it's getting really boring and predictable, we need to send a new message in our entries.

2. The song actually having a beat to it, even ballads can have a catchy beat, but the UK seems to favour minimal beat.

3. Spend more money on the staging, our performances every year on Eurovision always look so barren, I mean that poor Michael Rice last night was given no staging whatsoever.

Also as a preference I'd like us to play on our Rock and Indie circuits more often as we're actually good at it.

[Black Dagger]

Stop sending Danish rejects and actually get decent song writing camps involved with singers that have creative input. Did Michael Rice really believe it was bigger than us? Likely not.

[Babayaro.]

I'm confused. We can send acts who aren't even British to represent us?

Seems a bit odd.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I'm confused. We can send acts who aren't even British to represent us?

Seems a bit odd.

Katrina was American

[sleleen]

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by SlayBB

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

[sleleen]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

That would of been fab

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by SlayBB

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

Originally Posted by SlayBB

That would of been fab

We’d still send something bunk though, the general public that cote on those things have zero taste

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

It wouldnt have worked though has the BBC always had it finishing after the deadline

[Denver]

Micheal Won Altogether now though

[Firewire]

Stop sending English acts because it clearly isn't working for them

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Stop sending English acts because it clearly isn't working for them

Time to give the Celts a crack, smash out some traditional music, they seem to lap that up

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Time to give the Celts a crack, smash out some traditional music, they seem to lap that up

Exactly!

[Denver]

We should try like a Bollywood themed entry, we have a massive Asian community so we couldn't be accused of using another countries tradition for no reason

[Saph]

2020s winning entry from the UK:

Youtube video

[joeysteele]

I'd hate the UK not to take part.
We'll be in nothing soon if we keep running off because we don't get what we want.

The Netherlands have had to wait 44 years to win it again.
They worked hard, put a lot of effort and thought in it and came up with success.

Honestly, Michael sang well but being honest, not as good as when he won selection as this years entrant.

Also, while I like the song, the UK performance was rather dull really.

It seems the UK has lost the knack of tapping into winning songs.
Michael didn't deserve last place but neither a top half place either on the night.
Alongside most of the other performances it just came across an average entry, not extra special.

Not many, however we got votes from Norway, Hungary, Belarus,Armenia, Georgia and Switzerland.
If we had a song that appealed stronger and got higher votes from those Countries then a few votes from others then we could find new success here.
The main thing is, we need to get a good act, a good song and get the song known around Europe before the contest too.
Which may bring in higher public votes too.

For a Nation renowned for pop music for decades, we seem to reserve a half hearted attempt year on year as to Eurovision.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd hate the UK not to take part.
We'll be in nothing soon if we keep running off because we don't get what we want.

The Netherlands have had to wait 44 years to win it again.
They worked hard, put a lot of effort and thought in it and came up with success.

Honestly, Michael sang well but being honest, not as good as when he won selection as this years entrant.

Also, while I like the song, the UK performance was rather dull really.

It seems the UK has lost the knack of tapping into winning songs.
Michael didn't deserve last place but neither a top half place either on the night.
Alongside most of the other performances it just came across an average entry, not extra special.

Not many, however we got votes from Norway, Hungary, Belarus,Armenia, Georgia and Switzerland.
If we had a song that appealed stronger and got higher votes from those Countries then a few votes from others then we could find new success here.
The main thing is, we need to get a good act, a good song and get the song known around Europe before the contest too.
Which may bring in higher public votes too.

For a Nation renowned for pop music for decades, we seem to reserve a half hearted attempt year on year as to Eurovision.

Well said

[Jay28jay2]

I suggest either:
-We send in a song in another one of our recognised languages (i.e. Scottish or Welsh) in order to stand out as it would not be expected for a predominantly English speaking country to send something in another language.
-Or, just split the United Kingdom up in Eurovision altogether, and instead have England, Scotland and Wales participate separately. Wales participated in The Junior Eurovision Song Contest last year and the Eurovision Choir Contest in 2017 and is returning to participate in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest this year, with Scotland set to be participating in the Eurovision Choir Contest this year.