[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I mean it's no coincidence that we last won with a foreigner

Hmm. I thought the acts used had to be British? Unless am thinking of something else.

Good people don't want to represent us as its cheesy bollocks. But like..some pop groups/singers constantly bring out cheesy bollocks, so why on earth would a night of cheesy bollocks watched by millions be a bad thing for them? You would think they would see it as more exposure. And if they get low points, its hardly going to kill careers, given UK is pretty much doomed to low points forever anyway IMO...but a chance, with someone half decent (and semi-known outside the uk)..should be taken just to check

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hmm. I thought the acts used had to be British? Unless am thinking of something else.

Good people don't want to represent us as its cheesy bollocks. But like..some pop groups/singers constantly bring out cheesy bollocks, so why on earth would a night of cheesy bollocks watched by millions be a bad thing for them? You would think they would see it as more exposure. And if they get low points, its hardly going to kill careers, given UK is pretty much doomed to low points forever anyway IMO...but a chance, with someone half decent (and semi-known outside the uk)..should be taken just to check

Nope, you can send anyone you like.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Nope, you can send anyone you like.

OK, wonder what on earth I am thinking of. If I have got the olympics and eurovision mixed up in my head, then I am even more backwards than I thought I was right now!

[Saph]

send charli xcx with a bop

[Mystic Mock]

There's three things we need to fix for next year's Eurovision.

1. Stop making songs about love, peace and harmony, nearly every UK entry is about this and it's getting really boring and predictable, we need to send a new message in our entries.

2. The song actually having a beat to it, even ballads can have a catchy beat, but the UK seems to favour minimal beat.

3. Spend more money on the staging, our performances every year on Eurovision always look so barren, I mean that poor Michael Rice last night was given no staging whatsoever.

Also as a preference I'd like us to play on our Rock and Indie circuits more often as we're actually good at it.

[Black Dagger]

Stop sending Danish rejects and actually get decent song writing camps involved with singers that have creative input. Did Michael Rice really believe it was bigger than us? Likely not.

[Babayaro.]

I'm confused. We can send acts who aren't even British to represent us?

Seems a bit odd.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

We don't enter....its a "vote for your allies" competition and we don't have any. Literally not worth the time and outlay any more

Disagree.
Israel is not much loved but when they sent a catchy song last year they won.
UK can win with a good song

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Nothing will actually work because it's not based on talent or entertainment, it's based on how the other countries will always vote for each other instead of us

yes, countries like the Netherlands and Israel have a whole bunch of European neighbours that reliably give them 12pts... so bored of seeing this complaint.

Last night the only noticeable "neighbour trade-offs" that made no sense since everyone else rated them averagely were:
- Greece/Cyprus
- Slovenia/Czech Republic
- and San Marino/Italy

Also, Australia have been in the top 10 every time since competing (I think). Where're the neighbours?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK, wonder what on earth I am thinking of. If I have got the olympics and eurovision mixed up in my head, then I am even more backwards than I thought I was right now!

We even owe our last win to a foreigner Vicky Katrina (of the Waves) is American!!!

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Shaun

yes, countries like the Netherlands and Israel have a whole bunch of European neighbours that reliably give them 12pts... so bored of seeing this complaint.

Last night the only noticeable "neighbour trade-offs" that made no sense since everyone else rated them averagely were:
- Greece/Cyprus
- Slovenia/Czech Republic
- and San Marino/Italy

And Russia/Azerbaijan

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I'm confused. We can send acts who aren't even British to represent us?

Seems a bit odd.

Katrina was American

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Adam.

And Russia/Azerbaijan

But minus Czech republic and Slovenia bc they're not neighbours. Czech republic and Slovakia are

[sleleen]

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

[Denver]

Micheal Won Altogether now though

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MTVN

These crappy one night talent contests are obviously never gonna produce anything good

We need to revive a similar thing to when Andrew Lloyd Webber and Jade Ewan happened, that was the only time I remember us doing something serious and we cane 5th. Blue also did well so if we can get a recognisable artist (who's not 60+) to enter then that's a good alternative but honestly we're not helping ourselves with what we've put forward last few years

Lucie Jones did well we just never got the support from the televote

[Firewire]

Stop sending English acts because it clearly isn't working for them

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by SlayBB

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

[sleleen]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

That would of been fab

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Stop sending English acts because it clearly isn't working for them

Time to give the Celts a crack, smash out some traditional music, they seem to lap that up

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

It wouldnt have worked though has the BBC always had it finishing after the deadline

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by SlayBB

The format Malta went with this year really worked and UK should follow it, have the prize for the winner of all together now/any new show they have (Malta had their X Factor) then go off with them and find the right song for them

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There were rumours that BBC were going to give it to the winner of the voice, but then ITV bought it

Originally Posted by SlayBB

That would of been fab

We’d still send something bunk though, the general public that cote on those things have zero taste

[Denver]

We should try like a Bollywood themed entry, we have a massive Asian community so we couldn't be accused of using another countries tradition for no reason

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

We don't enter....its a "vote for your allies" competition and we don't have any. Literally not worth the time and outlay any more

I agree...let’s get out once and for good...it’s all panto and politics.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Time to give the Celts a crack, smash out some traditional music, they seem to lap that up

Exactly!