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Old 18-07-2019, 09:06 PM #1
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Another day for the racist-in-chief.
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tbh it is disappointing he didn't tell them to stop, and only voiced his displeasure about it the next day.

Call Omar a weirdo for marrying her brother, or criticize her antisemitism, don't say "send her back" when she's a legal citizen.
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tbh it is disappointing he didn't tell them to stop, and only voiced his displeasure about it the next day.

Call Omar a weirdo for marrying her brother, or criticize her antisemitism, don't say "send her back" when she's a legal citizen.
He only voiced the "displeasure " after realizing there was outrage.
By then the message of white supremacy has been received and understood by his supporters
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He only voiced the "displeasure " after realizing there was outrage.
By then the message of white supremacy has been received and understood by his supporters
That's like saying all Scots are tight.(amongst other things)

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That's like saying all Scots are tight.(amongst other things)
Agreed, should have said "some supporters "
Not all trump supporters are racist but all racists are trump supporters
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Agreed, should have said "some supporters "
Not all trump supporters are racist but all racists are trump supporters
Even the west hating muslims?
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tbh it is disappointing he didn't tell them to stop, and only voiced his displeasure about it the next day.

Call Omar a weirdo for marrying her brother, or criticize her antisemitism, don't say "send her back" when she's a legal citizen.
Lie. I hope this is supposed to be ironic.
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He should’ve shut that down there and then.
Not only because it was a terrifying thing to behold but because he probably can’t win with just his core voters and this will undoubtedly alienate his black and latino voters.
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I think it's hilarious that she called Trump a racist, while she herself is an anti-Semite. But that's not as bad, right? That's acceptable.
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I think it's hilarious that she called Trump a racist, while she herself is an anti-Semite. But that's not as bad, right? That's acceptable.
People probably overlook it because they saw a meme which told them racism=power+prejudice
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People probably overlook it because they saw a meme which told them racism=power+prejudice
Or, you know, they did their research into what was actually said and didn't hang on to the false right wing narrative like you have?
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People probably overlook it because they saw a meme which told them racism=power+prejudice
You probably don't know what prejudice even means given some of your comments on racism.
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People probably overlook it because they saw a meme which told them racism=power+prejudice
that definition of racism has been part of scholarly discourse since the 80s luv, most people who don't rely on alt-right YouTubers for their info already know that though x
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that definition of racism has been part of scholarly discourse since the 80s luv, most people who don't rely on alt-right YouTubers for their info already know that though x
It's not the actual working definition, anyone can be racist against anyone else.
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It's not the actual working definition, anyone can be racist against anyone else.
if you want to ignore decades of discourse around racism and instead hold onto a basic dictionary definition then hun that you prerogative. I don't really care to change your mind or debate you over it. I just wanted to point out that you were actually very wrong about people getting the racism=power+prejudice definition from a meme.

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I think it's hilarious that she called Trump a racist, while she herself is an anti-Semite. But that's not as bad, right? That's acceptable.
Lies.

She criticised Israel which we are all entitled to do and considering the HUGE disparity between civilian deaths when it comes to Palestine and Israel, criticism of how they've handled the conflict is more than apt.

Trying to make her out to be an anti-semite for criticising Israel sets a dangerous precedent and is just another example of the right wing doing what they do best, lying, cheating, misleading and spinning the facts into falsities to suit their agenda.

You are so defensive when it comes to people accusing others of racism but you are so easy to slap people with the anti-semite label when you disagree with their views, Livia. Sort out your hypocrisy, please.
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Lies.

She criticised Israel which we are all entitled to do and considering the HUGE disparity between civilian deaths when it comes to Palestine and Israel, criticism of how they've handled the conflict is more than apt.

Trying to make her out to be an anti-semite for criticising Israel sets a dangerous precedent and is just another example of the right wing doing what they do best, lying, cheating, misleading and spinning the facts into falsities to suit their agenda.
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Lies.

She criticised Israel which we are all entitled to do and considering the HUGE disparity between civilian deaths when it comes to Palestine and Israel, criticism of how they've handled the conflict is more than apt.

Trying to make her out to be an anti-semite for criticising Israel sets a dangerous precedent and is just another example of the right wing doing what they do best, lying, cheating, misleading and spinning the facts into falsities to suit their agenda.

You are so defensive when it comes to people accusing others of racism but you are so easy to slap people with the anti-semite label when you disagree with their views, Livia. Sort out your hypocrisy, please.
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Lies.

She criticised Israel which we are all entitled to do and considering the HUGE disparity between civilian deaths when it comes to Palestine and Israel, criticism of how they've handled the conflict is more than apt.

Trying to make her out to be an anti-semite for criticising Israel sets a dangerous precedent and is just another example of the right wing doing what they do best, lying, cheating, misleading and spinning the facts into falsities to suit their agenda.

You are so defensive when it comes to people accusing others of racism but you are so easy to slap people with the anti-semite label when you disagree with their views, Livia. Sort out your hypocrisy, please.
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Lies.

She criticised Israel which we are all entitled to do and considering the HUGE disparity between civilian deaths when it comes to Palestine and Israel, criticism of how they've handled the conflict is more than apt.

Trying to make her out to be an anti-semite for criticising Israel sets a dangerous precedent and is just another example of the right wing doing what they do best, lying, cheating, misleading and spinning the facts into falsities to suit their agenda.

You are so defensive when it comes to people accusing others of racism but you are so easy to slap people with the anti-semite label when you disagree with their views, Livia. Sort out your hypocrisy, please.
100% right.

This brandishing of being antisemite to any seen as undesirable by whoever accuses them of being.
Is a truly dangerous precedent as you point out.

It also however does a massive disservice to genuine antisemitism.

In the present, not just UK climate but elsewhere in the World.
This careless accusations of antisemitism by anyone is, in my view, and should be wholly unacceptable.
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100% right.

This brandishing of being antisemite to any seen as undesirable by whoever accuses them of being.
Is a truly dangerous precedent as you point out.

It also however does a massive disservice to genuine antisemitism.

In the present, not just UK climate but elsewhere in the World.
This careless accusations of antisemitism by anyone is, in my view, and should be wholly unacceptable.
Shocking.
Quite right, it makes light of anti-semitism and it gives actual anti-semites a weapon in which to devalue any accusations against them.

If someone have grounds to make such an accusation, then do so but if they throw the label around to try to shame people into silence then they turn their cause into a joke.
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He actually said go away and then report back - quite a different sentiment

but then the media trolled y'all with the first part of the tweet for financial gain (it worked)


Its the MSM that everyone should be angry with for false reporting tbh
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He actually said go away and then report back - quite a different sentiment

but then the media trolled y'all with the first part of the tweet for financial gain (it worked)


Its the MSM that everyone should be angry with for false reporting tbh

Yes LT he did say that.
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He actually said go away and then report back - quite a different sentiment

but then the media trolled y'all with the first part of the tweet for financial gain (it worked)


Its the MSM that everyone should be angry with for false reporting tbh
Well people just love to have a go at someone ,the media and others are obsessed with Trump and now Boris. I don't believe a lot of things I hear now as so much of it is twisted and lies.
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Well people just love to have a go at someone ,the media and others are obsessed with Trump and now Boris. I don't believe a lot of things I hear now as so much of it is twisted and lies.
Keep defending what is widely accepted as racism, I guess?
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