[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

nobody's opinion would be changed by the head to head. As Corbyn had the most to gain, and Boris the most to lose, i would think Boris would say good job done.

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[arista]

[Cherie]

I thought it was a decent debate, no outright winner, nice touch with the handshake and the Christmas gift question so it wasn't all grim attacking each other.

The audience were balanced as well

[Ammi]

....with consideration of the underdog Corbyn is, I would say that neck and neck is a pretty good result for him...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....with consideration of the underdog Corbyn is, I would say that neck and neck is a pretty good result for him...

Corbyn using A4 printed paper
from the internet
was Pathetic
to get his fake point that
Conservatives want to privatise the NHS.

[Kazanne]

The NHS is being used as a beating stick by Corbyn and the Labour party as both Johnson and Trump have said its off the table,Corbyn is just clinging to the NHS as it is so beloved by the UK,we know they all tell porkies but no way would he lie about selling the NHS as his political career would be over, its as boring as the "Lets get Brexit done" slogan now it's all Labour go on and on about .

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The NHS is being used as a beating stick by Corbyn and the Labour party as both Johnson and Trump have said its off the table,Corbyn is just clinging to the NHS as it is so beloved by the UK,we know they all tell porkies but no way would he lie about selling the NHS as his political career would be over, its as boring as the "Lets get Brexit done" slogan now it's all Labour go on and on about .

Trump had never once said it’s off the table, he’s openly said the exact opposite and there have already been meetings between Tories and Americans about the NHS, I think it’s pretty damn important to keep going on about it until people wake up and realise what’s going to happen if Boris gets his way, he’s not trustworthy, he’s been sacked and fined many times for being a liar, in my eyes, it’s not worth the risk to ‘see’ if he’s telling the truth because if he’s not (he’s not) we’ll get shafted out of our health service so he can be invited to Donnies house for Christmas

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trump had never once said it’s off the table, he’s openly said the exact opposite and there have already been meetings between Tories and Americans about the NHS, I think it’s pretty damn important to keep going on about it until people wake up and realise what’s going to happen if Boris gets his way, he’s not trustworthy, he’s been sacked and fined many times for being a liar, in my eyes, it’s not worth the risk to ‘see’ if he’s telling the truth because if he’s not (he’s not) we’ll get shafted out of our health service so he can be invited to Donnies house for Christmas

That's exactly what the labour party want you to believe , well done to them , they gotcha.It was said on GMB that Trump has said he isn't going for the NHS.plus one fact that is true they ALL have lied.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's exactly what the labour party want you to believe , well done to them , they gotcha.It was said on GMB that Trump has said he isn't going for the NHS.plus one fact that is true they ALL have lied.

And who told you Trump said that? Because unless it comes from the horses mouth, then I’ll carry on believing what he’s actually said on the matter

[bots]

the tories have had 9 years to privatise the NHS as much as they like, they don't need a trade deal with the USA to do that, so, it's basically nonsense from labour

[arista]

[arista]

BBC1HD
are doing the same two leader debate
on Friday Dec 6th.
Nick Robinson Presenting

[Denver]

Also anyone see how Corybn carried on his hate of Jews?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also anyone see how Corybn carried on his hate of Jews?

I saw him lie about how Labour have tackled anti-Semitism, and lie that every single complaint has been addressed, and lie that people have been expelled, because they've been let back in when the fuss dies down. If only he could say there have been problems with anti-Semitism within Labour, and they're going to stamp it out once and for all. But he doesn't.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

I saw him lie about how Labour have tackled anti-Semitism, and lie that every single complaint has been addressed, and lie that people have been expelled, because they've been let back in when the fuss dies down. If only he could say there have been problems with anti-Semitism within Labour, and they're going to stamp it out once and for all. But he doesn't.

He also made sure a Jewish name sounded Jewish

[The Slim Reaper]

Ahh, so we're back to the corbyn hates jews nonsense. Yesterday a tory candidate was suspended for holocaust denial, but hey ho. Boris Johnson promised an inquiry into islamophobia in the conservative party during his leadership election, which Gove admitted they've done nothing about, and there are no real plans to address.

But still, let's all try and intellectualise this sham by pointing out a jew hater tried to use the correct pronunciation of a Jewish name, which to me, shows a real hatred for every jew that ever lived, going back as far as David.

I don't find debates like this particularly useful, so I only had it on in the background, but the moaning and groaning when corbyn mentioned the poor shows which side are really addressing injustice, and which side are so vacuously dishonest, that they peddle the same old hatred and projection time and time again.

Again for the people at the back; Boris johnson described gay people as bum boys in tank tops, black people as piccaninnies with watermelon smiles, and muslim women as letterboxes (leading to a 375% spike in attacks on Muslims). Corbyn has been an anti racism campaigner for decades.

The right wing has never been a friend to Jews, and people hopping on this train now because they've aligned themselves with a movement based on fear of immigrants really show themselves up when at the same time they support Israels apartheid state.

Selective outrage highlights the fact these people have no real interest in social justice, but merely use it for their own gain when it suits. Happy to call immigrants trash when it suits them and their bitterness.

[Livia]

Yeah, listen to the Jews moaning again. Labour supporters have already said it's all lies. . And the far Right hate Jews more... I've heard it all before. No one can tell me what insults me and what doesn't. Even though there are a few try hard here.

The Conservatives are not being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights commission. Only Labour are... following Chakrabati's sham investigation and "nothing to see here" result which earned her a place in the House of Lords. Shameful. Not a bad bit of whataboutery though, seeing as it's usually the left calling other people out for that.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ahh, so we're back to the corbyn hates jews nonsense. Yesterday a tory candidate was suspended for holocaust denial, but hey ho. Boris Johnson promised an inquiry into islamophobia in the conservative party during his leadership election, which Gove admitted they've done nothing about, and there are no real plans to address.

But still, let's all try and intellectualise this sham by pointing out a jew hater tried to use the correct pronunciation of a Jewish name, which to me, shows a real hatred for every jew that ever lived, going back as far as David.

I don't find debates like this particularly useful, so I only had it on in the background, but the moaning and groaning when corbyn mentioned the poor shows which side are really addressing injustice, and which side are so vacuously dishonest, that they peddle the same old hatred and projection time and time again.

Again for the people at the back; Boris johnson described gay people as bum boys in tank tops, black people as piccaninnies with watermelon smiles, and muslim women as letterboxes (leading to a 375% spike in attacks on Muslims). Corbyn has been an anti racism campaigner for decades.

The right wing has never been a friend to Jews, and people hopping on this train now because they've aligned themselves with a movement based on fear of immigrants really show themselves up when at the same time they support Israels apartheid state.

Selective outrage highlights the fact these people have no real interest in social justice, but merely use it for their own gain when it suits. Happy to call immigrants trash when it suits them and their bitterness.

Well quite.
But labour needs to address the antisemitism. I dont consider Corbyn antisemitic but he dropped the ball and didnt nip it in the bud.
Latent antisemitism is like racism, it is everywhere. Labour didnt act soon enough or decisively enough. Its political enemies took the chance to run with it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ahh, so we're back to the corbyn hates jews nonsense. Yesterday a tory candidate was suspended for holocaust denial, but hey ho. Boris Johnson promised an inquiry into islamophobia in the conservative party during his leadership election, which Gove admitted they've done nothing about, and there are no real plans to address.

But still, let's all try and intellectualise this sham by pointing out a jew hater tried to use the correct pronunciation of a Jewish name, which to me, shows a real hatred for every jew that ever lived, going back as far as David.

I don't find debates like this particularly useful, so I only had it on in the background, but the moaning and groaning when corbyn mentioned the poor shows which side are really addressing injustice, and which side are so vacuously dishonest, that they peddle the same old hatred and projection time and time again.

Again for the people at the back; Boris johnson described gay people as bum boys in tank tops, black people as piccaninnies with watermelon smiles, and muslim women as letterboxes (leading to a 375% spike in attacks on Muslims). Corbyn has been an anti racism campaigner for decades.

The right wing has never been a friend to Jews, and people hopping on this train now because they've aligned themselves with a movement based on fear of immigrants really show themselves up when at the same time they support Israels apartheid state.

Selective outrage highlights the fact these people have no real interest in social justice, but merely use it for their own gain when it suits. Happy to call immigrants trash when it suits them and their bitterness.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also anyone see how Corybn carried on his hate of Jews?

Yes I did.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also anyone see how Corybn carried on his hate of Jews?

No.

Care to give examples of this from the debate?

[arista]

BBC Politic Live BBC2HD
at 12:38PM
confirmed the documents Corbyn had were American.
Not from the Conservative Government


It was American wish list.

Jonhson PM was Correct it's not his plan

[Twosugars]

Wrong parties Slim.
Only Labour gets condemned for antisemitism

[Livia]

I won't be sticking up for anti-Semites, whether they're red, blue or any other persuasion. Just to be clear.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

I won't be sticking up for anti-Semites, whether they're red, blue or any other persuasion. Just to be clear.

Easy tiger. That's quite the condemnation.