[arista]

Some Balance on this thread

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Some Balance on this thread

It doesn't need balance from mogg thankyou arista!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It doesn't need balance from mogg thankyou arista!

Big Error Kizzy
forget that MP

Paul Johnson gave a Solid Interview
press play

[arista]

More Fair Balance

[Kizzy]

I have watched it , we as a collective will have to pay for it? ..well by the same token and for balance that goes equally for tax cuts to business and NI insurance, things don't cost less and public services aren't as necessary if some pay less... the money has to come from somewhere, we end up paying somewhere down the line.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have watched it , we as a collective will have to pay for it? ..well by the same token and for balance that goes equally for tax cuts to business and NI insurance, things don't cost less and public services aren't as necessary if some pay less... the money has to come from somewhere, we end up paying somewhere down the line.

Do you feel Jeremy Corbyn
can win?

[Nicky91]

it are pretty good reasons to vote labour


and when brexit has caused nothing but pain in the arse for the last 3 (nearly 4 years) it should either be sorted asap with a deal, or being revoked and then trying to have more serious input in the EU, and being more respected by the rest of europe

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Do you feel Jeremy Corbyn
can win?

Id like to hope he can yes of course. Look at the alternative, it might seem radical what he's proposing but look at what we have... skeleton services, crime, poverty and homelessness.I say it's a brave new world, even if it does smack of the 70s who cares?

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What an odd thing to say... what has personal appearance got to do with policy? What do you think of his plans for the post office?

Well I would like his plans for Royal Mail (nothing to do with Post Office btw) if I thought he stood any chance of following through,,pardon the expression!

[Crimson Dynamo]

i literally am amazed that anyone still believes anything printed in a manifesto

its all BS to get elected

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i literally am amazed that anyone still believes anything printed in a manifesto

its all BS to get elected

We are in agreement LT if we listen to the utter B#@@ocks from any of them then we can expect to have achieved Nirvana on Dec 13th!

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

We are in agreement LT if we listen to the utter B#@@ocks from any of them then we can expect to have achieved Nirvana on Dec 13th!

They're not all the same though. You can say you don't care about childhood poverty, food banks, and the decimation of industry in this country, and you're voting for another reason altogether, but saying they're all the same so **** it, is flat out wrong.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i literally am amazed that anyone still believes anything printed in a manifesto

its all BS to get elected

the same can be said about the Tories then, and about literally any political party


and this coming from someone anti-labour doesn't surprise me at all, just a silly attempt at bringing labour down

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

We are in agreement LT if we listen to the utter B#@@ocks from any of them then we can expect to have achieved Nirvana on Dec 13th!

No. Nirvana will only happen when we brexit. Do or die in a ditch

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

We are in agreement LT if we listen to the utter B#@@ocks from any of them then we can expect to have achieved Nirvana on Dec 13th!

agreed they are all the same

utter BS to get people importance/status and more money (politicians)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

Well I would like his plans for Royal Mail (nothing to do with Post Office btw) if I thought he stood any chance of following through,,pardon the expression!

Sorry yes should've said royal mail, why hasn't he the chance? Give him the chance.
What's the point of being so peed off with your lot in life re your job. Then, when theres someone saying they'll make it better ignoring them?...it makes no sense.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i literally am amazed that anyone still believes anything printed in a manifesto

its all BS to get elected

Well that's not true is it..the Tories said they would deliver austerity and they have, they austerity theyve provided has driven the country into the fecking floor!

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Tea. It’s so frustrating seeing the working class vote Tories. They couldn’t give a **** about anyone other than the top 1% and keeping it that way, and they don’t even try that hard to be dishonest about it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Tea. It’s so frustrating seeing the working class vote Tories. They couldn’t give a **** about anyone other than the top 1% and keeping it that way, and they don’t even try that hard to be dishonest about it.

you do realise that there is a rather large middle class in the UK?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Tea. It’s so frustrating seeing the working class vote Tories. They couldn’t give a **** about anyone other than the top 1% and keeping it that way, and they don’t even try that hard to be dishonest about it.

I have no problem with conservative values and the sociological perspective they had, the new right. It was all family values, law and order, and living within your means.
This bastardisation we have on the tory benches are not those conservatives. They are the mugwai fed after midnight of the right wing. Maybe the people still voting conservative are holding onto the old values... :/

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Sure, but if they cut staff to save a tiny bit of money to them, that’ll be very bad publicity for them when they reveal their end of year pay rises to the big guys, plus, less staff means worse service, which leads to bad words spreading, which eventually leads to less people shopping there, they’d be better off just complying, I personally think if a big business like Asda refused to adhere to it, then their taxes should be raised to they can contribute to society that way instead, make it hard for them to dodge, they’d probably pay up then

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So when customer satisfaction falls consumers can vote with their feet and shop elsewhere.

Oh I agree completely, if they really do lay off staff due to minimum wage rise, or having to pay higher taxes, they totally deserve to lose all their customers.

I'm not saying that minimum wage shouldn't be raised, I'm saying it's likely there'll be consequences for the employees and/or customers.

[arista]

For Kizzy.

[Kizzy]

It's perfect thank you

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sorry yes should've said royal mail, why hasn't he the chance? Give him the chance.
What's the point of being so peed off with your lot in life re your job. Then, when theres someone saying they'll make it better ignoring them?...it makes no sense.

I agree Kizzy the trouble is, and this is where I agree with LT, that all these promises (on all sides) will all be broken or at best be postponed to some distant future. Especially all these ideas from Labour because they will waste at least another year on Brexit before getting to any of these fantastic proposals!

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

I agree Kizzy the trouble is, and this is where I agree with LT, that all these promises (on all sides) will all be broken or at best be postponed to some distant future. Especially all these ideas from Labour because they will waste at least another year on Brexit before getting to any of these fantastic proposals!

I hate to break it to you, but even if BJ gets his deal through by the end of next year, there will then be 5-10 years of trade negotiations dealing with the fallout of brexit, so they won't get anything done.

There is no quick fix or #getbrexitdone.