[Maxxie.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't see the point in drawing a comparison between this and Stormzy. Prestigious universities are typically not diverse and he's not throwing out a bursary that denies service to anyone, he's chosen to send two people to university. Educational bursaries are not the same thing.

I'm glad they rejected his offer, Bursaries should be dependant on talent and nothing more.

But denying this bursary is denying service to working class boys, I’m not even going to mention the fact that there white as I don’t see it as relevant.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maxxie-D

But denying this bursary is denying service to working class boys, I’m not even going to mention the fact that there white as I don’t see it as relevant.

But it is relevant as the bursary is for white boys?

[Maxxie.]

While reading that my opinion of this changed like 3 or 4 times its crazy I don’t really know what to think.

My main thoughts are though that if working class white people are the lowest academic performers in the country then obviously it has to be some sort of demographic, and if it isn’t them it would be working class black boys which I think would be treated as far more of an outrage. I don’t know how far the margin or comparison is tbh or if its much but if someone did know that would be very helpful.

This is obviously a generalisation but I think a reason because of this is white males from lower backgrounds are less likely to have role models or as much motivation imposed upon them. Since children of colour are most likely to be the children of first or second generation immigrants, they are more likely to have parents or grandparents who worked very hard to get to this country and have a work ethic that they could influence on their children.

[Maxxie.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But it is relevant as the bursary is for white boys?

Which those white boys aren’t going to get anymore because the bursary has been rejected.

I’m not too keen on the idea of this bursary in the first place, but the fact it does exist now has been rejected I struggle to see as anything other than a bad thing.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maxxie-D

Which those white boys aren’t going to get anymore because the bursary has been rejected.

I’m not too keen on the idea of this bursary in the first place, but the fact it does exist now has been rejected I struggle to see as anything other than a bad thing.

Why?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maxxie-D

This is obviously a generalisation but I think a reason because of this is white males from lower backgrounds are less likely to have role models or as much motivation imposed upon them. Since children of colour are most likely to be the children of first or second generation immigrants, they are more likely to have parents or grandparents who worked very hard to get to this country and have a work ethic that they could influence on their children.

You think the working classes are disadvantaged because of a lack of work ethic?
So their inequality is self-inflicted?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A taboo would mean it couldn't be discussed, its being discussed aplenty it appears?

If this guy wanted to give his money to an animal shelter, no one would have an issue, send it off to a foreign climes to aid the locals, no issue, give bursaries to disadvantaged white boys, que the outrage, he probably would have got away with it if he donated to white girls. I am pretty sure there are similar bursaries available purely for those from ethnic minorities as well if we cared to look where is the outrage for those...

You're clutching at straws here cherie, donating to animal shelters bears no relation to this, as there's no race issue involved.
White girls or boys makes no difference, I'm at a loss as to why you think it matters.

There may be some, it still does not take away from the decision made by these schools not to discriminate for the sake of donations, scholarship or funding. Other schools might who knows.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You're clutching at straws here cherie, donating to animal shelters bears no relation to this, as there's no race issue involved.
White girls or boys makes no difference, I'm at a loss as to why you think it matters.

There may be some, it still does not take away from the decision made by these schools not to discriminate for the sake of donations, scholarship or funding. Other schools might who knows.

No I am not, some people are triggered by white people getting any help at all, it’s not costing the state anything, it’s a donor who wishes to leave his hard earned cash where he wants to

I don’t see much pearl clutching from you with regard to scholarships solely for ethnic minorities kizzy..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don’t see much pearl clutching from you with regard to scholarships solely for ethnic minorities kizzy..

Pearl clutching.. isnt what the faux offended do?
I'm not offended, I have said there may be such schemes, it bears no relation to this case or the school involved, who have chosen not to accept this money of their own free will.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Pearl clutching.. isnt what the faux offended do?
I'm not offended, I have said there may be such schemes, it bears no relation to this case or the school involved, who have chosen not to accept this money of their own free will.

You said you wanted bursaries handed out on merit, whats changed?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What's a percentage point in terms of pupil numbers?...

You are deliberately skewing the point, disadvantaged children all deserve an equal chance and a help up the ladder based on merit alone.

Why is that such a taboo concept?...

Just refreshing your memory kizzy

You have nada to say about bursaries solely for ethnic minorties other than it has no bearing on this case....incredible!

[Moniqua]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Bit pathetic tbh.

Working class white boys are the bottom of the pile these days, as they're not only held back by lack of money, but they're the only group who doesn't get help from "diversity" schemes, so why shouldn't they get bursaries.

those crackhas have neauxbawdy tew blame but themselves amirite xD

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

those crackhas have neauxbawdy tew blame but themselves amirite xD

Wanna try that again in English?

[Moniqua]

those crackers have nobody to blame but themselves am i right xD

[Cherie]

It easy to see why the left were so drubbed in the election, I mean if you have a view, at least apply it fairly, I think most people whatever colour they are can see this

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

those crackers have nobody to blame but themselves am i right xD

nah it's not their fault that society has failed their parents

[Marsh.]

Are people really bleating that WHITE people suffer a lack of representation within diversity?

[Moniqua]

Harriet Tubman is such a queen

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

those crackhas have neauxbawdy tew blame but themselves amirite xD

and here is yet another hypocritical example...

don't call me names

I will of course call you what ever name you like

Just grow up!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Are people really bleating that WHITE people suffer a lack of representation within diversity?

we are talking about disadvantaged kids, nothing to do with colour

If you can give bursaries solely to one group, why not solely to another?

[Moniqua]

yt's who don't get offended by the word "cracker" > yt's who get offended by the word "cracker"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

yt's who don't get offended by the word "cracker" > yt's who get offended by the word "cracker"

I don't mind if its with cheese :

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Are people really bleating that WHITE people suffer a lack of representation within diversity?

All working class people do, including white people. But when they're being left out of bursaries and inclusion schemes, that does cause them to be under represented.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

All working class people do, including white people. But when they're being left out of bursaries and inclusion schemes, that does cause them to be under represented.

Working class people are not exclusively white.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

we are talking about disadvantaged kids, nothing to do with colour

If you can give bursaries solely to one group, why not solely to another?

Tbh I wasn't paying attention to yours and Kizzy's posts.

I was saving that for me brew in half hour.