[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

We live in clown world

I think that's probably always been the case, but I do low-key love the fact that since about 2018 it's just descended into being generally accepted. Like the world is utterly absurd and pointless and everyone knows it now.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think that's probably always been the case, but I do low-key love the fact that since about 2018 it's just descended into being generally accepted. Like the world is utterly absurd and pointless and everyone knows it now.

I'm soo glad I gave up caring about politics (apart from "broad strokes" and obvious stuff). The only things I ever fully cared about were the environment and animals, everything else ...

The world is a better place when you just laugh at it

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It would be nice if stereotypes could be erased across the board, but that ain't going to happen when white people are quite happy to stereotype other white people while moaning about white people stereotyping people of other races, personally I don't get it, but I live by my own rules, not some rules set by twitter et al

True.... ginger people, fat people, geeky people... everyone has the urine extracted and we can't legislate for everyone. Sounds a bit too 1984.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It would be nice if stereotypes could be erased across the board, but that ain't going to happen when white people are quite happy to stereotype other white people while moaning about white people stereotyping people of other races, personally I don't get it, but I live by my own rules, not some rules set by twitter et al

Stereotyping exists, its a fact. Again there's a difference between a white person mocking another race with a perceived physical appearance and identifying stereotypical traits in another white person.

I too live by my own rules, I don't however shmush all rules into one, or call for the erasure of societal observation.

Not all stereotypes are negative btw.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Stereotyping exists, its a fact. Again there's a difference between a white person mocking another race with a perceived physical appearance and identifying stereotypical traits in another white person.

I too live by my own rules, I don't however shmush all rules into one, or call for the erasure of societal observation.

Not all stereotypes are negative btw.

True but the majority are negative

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

True but the majority are negative

Thought you were a glass half full girl?.. come on I'm sure you can think of some positive stereotypes.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

My wife's aunt is called Karen but I'm going to be honest and say that the urban dictionary definition of Karen could just be a photo of her.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

Sure they can handle it.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

I've seen comments by people called Karen saying that they aren't offended by the memes and that they understand that it's nothing against them, it's just a common name that happened to become part of the joke.

[Tom4784]

I can understand why some people might think Karen is a sexist term but, tbh, anyone can be a Karen regardless of gender. If you're rude, hostile and attempting to scream down people trying to provide a service to you, you're a Karen, if you're bothering people for existing and getting into their business where you don't belong, you're a Karen. Etc etc.

[armand.kay]

the meme was made to poke fun at entitled people who’d utilise their privilege to assert power over people somewhere along the line it’s ended up being used to describe any whiney white woman. The only issues i’ve ever had with the meme though is that i’m not really a fan of giving racist white people who weaponise the police a cutesy nickname.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

the meme was made to poke fun at entitled people who’d utilise their privilege to assert power over people somewhere along the line it’s ended up being used to describe any whiney white woman. The only issues i’ve ever had with the meme though is that i’m not really a fan of giving racist white people who weaponise the police a cutesy nickname.

Succinctly put

[Parmy]

All Karen's names matter.

[Livia]

Can someone please list for me, all the people it's okay to abuse? Because I was thinking, wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped abusing everyone else.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can someone please list for me, all the people it's okay to abuse? Because I was thinking, wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped abusing everyone else.

Everyone. Simple as that

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can someone please list for me, all the people it's okay to abuse? Because I was thinking, wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped abusing everyone else.

racists
bigots
xenophobes
homophobes
etc..

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

racists
bigots
xenophobes
homophobes
etc..

And YOU are one of the people who get to decide who those people are.

That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

And YOU are one of the people who get to decide who those people are.

That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

Do you think I made bad choices with what I listed?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Do you think I made bad choices with what I listed?

You don't really want to know what I think, you want an opportunity to call me names.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Do you think I made bad choices with what I listed?

The list itself is fine, because everyone is a fair target

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can someone please list for me, all the people it's okay to abuse? Because I was thinking, wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped abusing everyone else.

SJW's
The PC brigade
Snowflakes
Social justice warriors
Libtards
Virtue signallers
Bleeding hearted hand wringing lefties
'Millenials' (used as a term to diminish someone's opinion)

Well done getting these eradicated, I hope you do mind you.

[user104658]

Her decision to engage with this on Twitter was an error (though IMO the decision to engage in any debate on Twitter is an error) because, even grading on a curve, the Twitter trans rights community is utterly toxic.

But there's no excuse at all for the aggression she's been getting (rape threats from transwomen? Erm...) and the HP cast jumping on the bandwagon and repeating hive-mind mantras to, as far as I can tell, appease the zeitgeist... Is utterly pathetic. I couldn't have less respect for them at this point.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Her decision to engage with this on Twitter was an error (though IMO the decision to engage in any debate on Twitter is an error) because, even grading on a curve, the Twitter trans rights community is utterly toxic.

But there's no excuse at all for the aggression she's been getting (rape threats from transwomen? Erm...) and the HP cast jumping on the bandwagon and repeating hive-mind mantras to, as far as I can tell, appease the zeitgeist... Is utterly pathetic. I couldn't have less respect for them at this point.

Ironically the responses she's been getting from a lot of transwomen (the suck my dicks and rape threats) kind of go aways to validating what she wrote about her fears and being a woman.......

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ironically the responses she's been getting from a lot of transwomen (the suck my dicks and rape threats) kind of go aways to validating what she wrote about her fears and being a woman.......

The whole thing (the whole twittersphere in fact) is drenched in a sad irony to be honest. People feel emboldened by having a platform, their use of that platform becomes increasingly aggressive and extreme, most people get bored with it and abandon the platform which becomes increasingly niche and circular, THAT encourages ever-more-extreme behaviour, which put off yet more people in a downwards spiral. The end result is - in my opinion inevitably - going to be the platform being abandonned or at the very least, completely losing mainstream appeal. With no replacement.

It's already happening to be honest. And sadly it means that the genuine, non-aggressive people who just wanted to be seen and heard will find their platform going right along with it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The whole thing (the whole twittersphere in fact) is drenched in a sad irony to be honest. People feel emboldened by having a platform, their use of that platform becomes increasingly aggressive and extreme, most people get bored with it and abandon the platform which becomes increasingly niche and circular, THAT encourages ever-more-extreme behaviour, which put off yet more people in a downwards spiral. The end result is - in my opinion inevitably - going to be the platform being abandonned or at the very least, completely losing mainstream appeal. With no replacement.

It's already happening to be honest. And sadly it means that the genuine, non-aggressive people who just wanted to be seen and heard will find their platform going right along with it.

mmm Twitter is really awful, I was also very disappointed with the Harry Potter actors coming out against her. They're of course entitled to voice their opinions but I was disappointed that they never said that the abuse she was getting was unacceptable, the woman who made them all millionaires and who had been a friend to them