[Ninastar]

What I want to know is why, when these events happen, the suspect is always on some kind of ‘watch list’ or already known to the police?

Surely if they aren’t of British nationality, they should be sent back where they travelled from? Especially if they had already been in jail for something like assault?

There’s so many good and genuine people that could have a better life in the UK and then there’s people like those who jeopardise it for everyone

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

What I want to know is why, when these events happen, the suspect is always on some kind of ‘watch list’ or already known to the police?

Surely if they aren’t of British nationality, they should be sent back where they travelled from? Especially if they had already been in jail for something like assault?

There’s so many good and genuine people that could have a better life in the UK and then there’s people like those who jeopardise it for everyone

That would be the ideal wouldn't it, he should have lost his asylum status once convicted of a crime, the system is far too soft

[Ammi]

...it’s a ‘jigsaw puzzle’ that I’m sure we’ll become aware of the missing pieces of it as to why he was released early and how the ‘public danger’ of his release was obviously not being recognised to be the threat it was with the reality it became...I’ve read very little about him, other than his mental health issues being inferred as possibly why he was released early from his prison sentence and also mentioned again as a factor in these horrendous acts...Just so much for the families of his victims to be given answers for and too much missing information atm...making it hard to form any judgement for me personally...

[Ammi]

...another whose life was taken has been named as Joe Ritchie-Bennett, 39, an American from Philadelphia...he had lived in the U.K. for 15 years but his family are still in Philadelphia...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...another whose life was taken has been named as Joe Ritchie-Bennett, 39, an American from Philadelphia...he had lived in the U.K. for 15 years but his family are still in Philadelphia...

Yes will not go down well
in USA

[Zizu]

It’s interesting to see that MI5 knew all about him but are adamant they didn’t have ENOUGH evidence to act upon .

They should be made to release the evidence they DID have on him for us to see ... AFTER the court case


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s interesting to see that MI5 knew all about him but are adamant they didn’t have ENOUGH evidence to act upon .

They should be made to release the evidence they DID have on him for us to see ... AFTER the court case


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He was out of prison for just 16 days after being released after 7 months into a 27 month sentence, certainly seems to be a pattern with the last 3 attacks

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s interesting to see that MI5 knew all about him but are adamant they didn’t have ENOUGH evidence to act upon .

They should be made to release the evidence they DID have on him for us to see ... AFTER the court case


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There are over 20,000 people on the list. More than 3000 of them are seen as extremely dangerous.

How are we going to follow and track them all?

Why would the security services want to show the public the list or anything about it? How would you know what was evidence and what wasn't?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are over 20,000 people on the list. More than 3000 of them are seen as extremely dangerous.



How are we going to follow and track them all?



Why would the security services want to show the public the list or anything about it? How would you know what was evidence and what wasn't?

Well they decided that there wasn’t enough evidence to ‘really’ worry about someone who went and attacked and slaughtered a load of innocent people...I’d like to know what they DID know about him ...


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well they decided that there wasn’t enough evidence to ‘really’ worry about someone who went and attacked and slaughtered a load of innocent people...I’d like to know what they DID know about him ...


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They had him on File
after making Terrorist Threats online.


But did not have staff to watch him.


His hands were painted red , they say.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well they decided that there wasn’t enough evidence to ‘really’ worry about someone who went and attacked and slaughtered a load of innocent people...I’d like to know what they DID know about him ...


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I doubt the security services think you have a high enough clearance to be sending stuff to you.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

I doubt the security services think you have a high enough clearance to be sending stuff to you.

You’d be surprised..


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[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are over 20,000 people on the list. More than 3000 of them are seen as extremely dangerous.

How are we going to follow and track them all?

Why would the security services want to show the public the list or anything about it? How would you know what was evidence and what wasn't?

This is genuinely terrifying

[Oliver_W]

It'd be much safer all round if a lot of the more dangerous people on the watch list ... ahem, "met with accidents". They're liabilities and a drain on public money and resources, so just get rid.

[arista]

Live Parliament
The Home Secretary is now talking of this attack
All media.

[arista]

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[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by arista

I do not support this Tweet.
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I feel more unsafe for myself and my family due to Twitter accounts like this raising blatant Racism and Islamaphobia than I would in anyway from migrants.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I feel more unsafe for myself and my family due to Twitter accounts like this raising blatant Racism and Islamaphobia than I would in anyway from migrants.

That's not good.
I hope it improves.

[Cherie]

David Wails is the third victim to be named

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I feel more unsafe for myself and my family due to Twitter accounts like this raising blatant Racism and Islamaphobia than I would in anyway from migrants.

...yeah totally, Leon...the social media sites are toxic in terms of promoting prejudices...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

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There was a professor on Radio 5 this morning and he said that due to the decades of illegal immigrants slipping onto our shores we really have NO idea what our population is .


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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

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I do not support this tweet, but let me show you my thread on this very subject...

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I do not support this tweet, but let me show you my thread on this very subject...

Well Done Slim.

[Oliver_W]

I wonder if his harddrive's been searched yet, and how much extremist material is on it...

Originally Posted by parmnion

All victims were vocal members of the local LGBTQ community.

RIP.

Hmm, it's possible it's a coincidence, and their little group just happened to be the one he went for.

Originally Posted by arista

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I'm not scared of any individuals. But they come from cultures with crappy views toward women and LGBT people, so I'd theoretically have more to worry about than Bob Random.

[Liam-]

They say that, but you could get attacked by anybody on the street, you walk past people you don’t know every day, why are those people any scarier?... one guess