[arista]

[Glenn.]

So it’s fake tabloid news and STILL they are in the wrong?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

So it’s fake tabloid news and STILL they are in the wrong?

[Glenn.]

Jesus have you actually read the comments on that article lmao.

[Swan]

Tbf the phrase "wrong side of the tracks" has nothing to do with a persons race, more to do with their standing in society if you like. Same as and similar to "a bit rough around the edges". Neither race related.

Of course, some of the old fashioned, Royal 'purists' may be against "Harry marrying a coloured girl". And of course they'll be a very small minority who are against her because she is mixed race. But to say the dislike of her is spearheaded by race is utterly absurd imo.

She does herself no favours, they both don't. They're not wonderfully likeable people. A lot of us are just fed up of their hypocrisy at every turn, and it's so awfully plain to see.

I think it weakens a persons argument when they holler "racist" at someone because they happen to dislike a mixed race person.

The perfect example being me, i cannot stand Megan, i don't hate her, but my god i think both of them are pompous, deluded, hypocritical idiots, yet i have a mix raced girlfriend. Would you point the finger at me and spout racist accusations towards me because i don't like Megan? Probably not.

A very, very, VERY small minority of people will be against Megan because of her race. But by saying "oh well obviously everyone who doesn't like her is racist" is beyond any form or rational.

[Ammi]

...we don’t know whether it’s minority or majority though because there hasn’t been a balance of anything in the media, so of course...we question in what we see and experience, not what we don’t see and experience...racism/prejudice will and should always be questioned If it’s been such an undercurrent which has been a constant, as it has with Meghan...and with ‘wrong side of the tracks’...?...obviously we have to look at the whole context and whole media picture as it were and can’t exclude or isolate from ‘exotic blood’...

...as for ‘hypocrites’ ...well, we are all...every single one of us...and with celebrity hypocrites...well, welcome to the world of many and many and every one and all.....


...anyways, all in all, things are questioned because they should be because if they weren’t then the surface appearance would be of the ‘irrational’ ....

[bots]

i find them dull, predictable and irrelevant. Hate is a very strong word that should be used sparingly against precise examples and not thrown around as a general method of silencing opposing opinions

[Swan]

In your honest opinion Ammi, would you say the dislike, on the whole, of Megan is spearheaded by her race?

I don't really read newspaper headlines, but by the general feeling i get by the people i see online who don't like her, it really has nothing to do her race.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

In your honest opinion Ammi, would you say the dislike, on the whole, of Megan is spearheaded by her race?

I don't really read newspaper headlines, but by the general feeling i get by the people i see online who don't like her, it really has nothing to do her race.

....I can’t really say on the ‘whole’ because I don’t know...but I do think that when ‘the irrational’ rears it’s head to the extent of the intense negativity levelled at Meghan then the ‘the logical’ will try to make sense of, it’s a natural thought processing and as there have been so many undercurrents of prejudices toward Meghan’s bloodline...then it’s right to be questioned...prejudice should always be questioned if we seek progression...and seek equality...


...if I personally felt some kind of dislike for someone I’d never spoken to and only ever essentially experienced ‘gossip’ from sources who had an investment in that gossip../...as in some sources of ‘media’...then I would question my dislike of...because there is very rarely, if ever..’no reason’...

...I guess all I can say really with ‘it seems to have nothing to do with her race’...?...is that there wouldn’t be many people who would openly say ‘no, I don’t like the colour of her skin, I’m not really a fan for the Royal bloodline’.....so again, it’s all understandably questioned because of those constant undercurrents and not so undercurrents but more blatant etc...

[Glenn.]

Regardless of her race the hatred of her is not warranted, hence irrational

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Regardless of her race the hatred of her is not warranted, hence irrational

Well that's another issue too. Just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean you hate the person. The word 'hate' is thrown around way too much in these Megan and Harry threads.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well that's another issue too. Just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean you hate the person. The word 'hate' is thrown around way too much in these Megan and Harry threads.

When you’re saying the complete opposite of nice things about people it’s exactly the word to use. People that have such an issue with the pair of them on here are completely irrational with their opinions of them.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

When you’re saying the complete opposite of nice things about people it’s exactly the word to use. People that have such an issue with the pair of them on here are completely irrational with their opinions of them.

By calling out their questionable behaviour, it doesn't mean you hate them. If you don't say nice things about them, that also doesn't mean you hate them either. Get a grip!

Anyway, im out.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

When you’re saying the complete opposite of nice things about people it’s exactly the word to use. People that have such an issue with the pair of them on here are completely irrational with their opinions of them.

No its not...hate is a strong word. Its like saying all those who like her LOVE her. Its the extreme.
You can Like and Dislike...or you can Love or Hate.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well that's another issue too. Just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean you hate the person. The word 'hate' is thrown around way too much in these Megan and Harry threads.

...we always have to look at ‘too much’ on ‘both sides’ though, when our thought processes search...but so far as ‘both sides’ do go as well..?...it takes two sides and both sides to continue this tedious dance, which is felt as well, I feel...my main thoughts yesterday were of the fake news bit...but regardless of fake or no fake...the dance continues and continues, which I’ll be sitting out because there’s only so much dancing before exhaustion becomes a thing as well...

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...we always have to look at ‘too much’ on ‘both sides’ though, when our thought processes search...but so far as ‘both sides’ do go as well..?...it takes two sides and both sides to continue this tedious dance, which is felt as well, I feel...my main thoughts yesterday were of the fake news bit...but regardless of fake or no fake...the dance continues and continues, which I’ll be sitting out because there’s only so much dancing before exhaustion becomes a thing as well...

Im with you on that. I actually didn't want to even read this thread, i just wanted to address the whole 'you hate her because you're racist' which i feel is absurd. And it's the same with everything nowadays, the 'you're a racist' is thrown around way too often by certain members. But anyway, i'll leave it at that.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

Im with you on that. I actually didn't want to even read this thread, i just wanted to address the whole 'you hate her because you're racist' which i feel is absurd. And it's the same with everything nowadays, the 'you're a racist' is thrown around way too often by certain members. But anyway, i'll leave it at that.

...I have to say that ‘certain members’ posts are focused on in criticism while other ‘certain members’ are overlooked, but I’ll also leave that at that...I honestly don’t feel in any way that prejudice being questioned is in any way absurd in view of everything that has led up to Meghan and Harry’s decision to step down from Royal life...and also in view of the ‘Meghan/Kate’ comparisons being so totally apart and extreme, while the situations were so similar...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well that's another issue too. Just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean you hate the person. The word 'hate' is thrown around way too much in these Megan and Harry threads.

When you hate someone for everything they do and without ceasing, that is hatred and it's irrational hatred. Meghan could save a hundred orphans from a burning building and if she was caught on camera doing it, the people that base their lives around hating her would say she only did it because the cameras were on her and that she did it for attention.

It's just irrational no matter how you cut it. If someone dislike someone regardless of what they do and do 'research' (reading gossip rags) to fuel that hatred then that is irrational hatred. They're looking for reasons to hate on that person and will twist any situation to make them look bad. To say it isn't is just ignoring the reality of the situation.

This forum isn't full of Meghan fans, most of us are simply perturbed by the level of hate this woman gets and feel the need to counteract that. We could all go on with our lives and not care otherwise can the people in this world who hate her say the same?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When you hate someone for everything they do and without ceasing, that is hatred and it's irrational hatred. Meghan could save a hundred orphans from a burning building and if she was caught on camera doing it, the people that base their lives around hating her would say she only did it because the cameras were on her and that she did it for attention.

It's just irrational no matter how you cut it. If someone dislike someone regardless of what they do and do 'research' (reading gossip rags) to fuel that hatred then that is irrational hatred. They're looking for reasons to hate on that person and will twist any situation to make them look bad. To say it isn't is just ignoring the reality of the situation.

This forum isn't full of Meghan fans, most of us are simply perturbed by the level of hate this woman gets and feel the need to counteract that. We could all go on with our lives and not care otherwise can the people in this world who hate her say the same?

More dram....

Come on admit it, you are a big Meg fan.

[Glenn.]

I think if you refuse to see anything good in someone, by default you hate them yes?

When you’re imagining peoples thought processes and seeing them thought processes as fact by default that would be an irrational way of thinking yes?

Irrational hatred yes?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I think if you refuse to see anything good in someone, by default you hate them yes?

When you’re imagining peoples thought processes and seeing them thought processes as fact by default that would be an irrational way of thinking yes?

Irrational hatred yes?

refusing to see any good in some is simply that, not seeing any good in them ... it doesn't equate to hate at all. I haven't seen a single instance of hate being directed toward them. All I have seen is people pointing out the couples general hypocrisy in the main, that doesn't equate to hate at all ... perhaps debate the substance of peoples opposing opinions rather than intentionally trying to shut them up by calling them haters or racists

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

refusing to see any good in some is simply that, not seeing any good in them ... it doesn't equate to hate at all. I haven't seen a single instance of hate being directed toward them. All I have seen is people pointing out the couples general hypocrisy in the main, that doesn't equate to hate at all ... perhaps debate the substance of peoples opposing opinions rather than intentionally trying to shut them up by calling them haters or racists

Pop yourself onto the comments section of that article and tell me you see no irrational hatred.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Pop yourself onto the comments section of that article and tell me you see no irrational hatred.

well, feel free to discuss them on that platform, or make a thread on it here so people can discuss it. You are grouping people who have an opinion here with comments you have read on another platform, and with respect, that's not relevant to this thread. Having said that, the whole thread is a joke as Arista changed the title and context of the thread making it a confusing mess anyway, so we would all be better moving on in this instance

[Ammi]

...’we would all be better moving on’ though, bots can also be interpreted as a shutting down...I choose to move on atm because it was nice to have an early morning sharing of thoughts with Swan...there aren’t that many people awake when I log on or they ignore me or whatever...but that’s that of that for the moment for me and because when ‘ration is found then ration can be discussed quite easily’...but for anyone else...?..that’s their choice to make...

...I might decide to get up on that dance floor again at some point, who knows...but just not for the moment because there is no ‘freshness of thoughts’ added or to add atm...

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well, feel free to discuss them on that platform, or make a thread on it here so people can discuss it. You are grouping people who have an opinion here with comments you have read on another platform, and with respect, that's not relevant to this thread. Having said that, the whole thread is a joke as Arista changed the title and context of the thread making it a confusing mess anyway, so we would all be better moving on in this instance

It’s hard not to group people together when they share the same opinions. Most of the comments on the article have been posted on TiBB in some shape or form.

It’s where most of the haters get their stories about them in the first place.