Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 26-10-2020, 06:35 PM #1
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-says-research

Universal credit wait fuels poverty and food bank use, says research
The PM has just said on the news UC has gone up by £20 a week to cover this and councils have had extra .
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"
Kazanne is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 06:34 PM #2
Christmas Dynasnow's Avatar
Christmas Dynasnow Christmas Dynasnow is offline
Crimson Dynamo | The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 107,420


Christmas Dynasnow Christmas Dynasnow is offline
Crimson Dynamo | The voice of reason
Christmas Dynasnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 107,420


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazanne View Post
Well there are benefits like Universal credits,tax credits gas and electric companies are pretty good with struggling customers and will let them pay by card etc, also very poor people will get full housing benefit,and full council tax exemptions, winter warm allowances, plus there is help with furnishing a house I found it hard but not impossible.we are pretty lucky to live here,in some countries you wouldnt get the same help.
its probably one the main reasons so many people from other countries want to come hear tbh
Christmas Dynasnow is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 06:37 PM #3
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
its probably one the main reasons so many people from other countries want to come hear tbh
Exactly ,we do ok here really ,its not perfect but a lot better than many other countries trouble is some just want everything handed to them on a plate ,it cant happen ,it has to stop somewhere.
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"
Kazanne is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:02 PM #4
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,772

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,772

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate! View Post
I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.
Exactly.

That's really stressful and scary.
I've never been there myself but I know those who are in that position.

It's easy to say help is there, getting it is not so easy.
As often when it's claimed you don't get it, or all of it.

Plus claiming takes time.
If you're hungry and needing help now, it's needed now.

Shocking.
Even more surprising is there's people who believe every word this PM says.
When he wouldn't know what's true or decent in any shape or form politically.

He's really been able to be successful in one thing..
He's fed into and opened up most of the opinions of his most hard-line and heartless supporters.
That's for sure

Last edited by joeysteele; 26-10-2020 at 07:04 PM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:57 PM #5
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate! View Post
I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.
Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:59 PM #6
Holly Christmas's Avatar
Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
Holly Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.
Good post Kizzy. Xx
__________________


Spoiler:

Holly Christmas is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 06:47 PM #7
Holly Christmas's Avatar
Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
Holly Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Default

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.
__________________


Spoiler:


Last edited by Holly Christmas; 26-10-2020 at 06:49 PM.
Holly Christmas is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 06:49 PM #8
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,772

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,772

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate! View Post
This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been onto news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespect him in the worst way. Creep.
All Johnson can do is deceive and blatantly lie Kate.

Sadly there's those who it doesn't matter what he does, he can do no wrong.
Because it suits their own hard-line agenda.

No empathy whatsoever.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 06:55 PM #9
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate! View Post
This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.
I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"
Kazanne is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:04 PM #10
Holly Christmas's Avatar
Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
Holly Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazanne View Post
I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.
but as I said earlier you can't know that for a fact. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Pun intended.
__________________


Spoiler:

Holly Christmas is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:09 PM #11
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 24,008

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 24,008

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazanne View Post
I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.
And you know that how exactly? Cause Boris said so?
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 27-10-2020, 06:04 AM #12
Josy's Avatar
Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,933


Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
Josy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,933


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazanne View Post
I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.
No kids will starve?

Surely you are aware that there are over 4 million kids living in poverty in the UK?
Josy is offline  
Old 27-10-2020, 12:11 PM #13
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,115
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,115
Default

For some context.



The maths has been verified.
__________________

Last edited by The Slim Reaper; 27-10-2020 at 12:11 PM.
The Slim Reaper is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:26 PM #14
Babayaro.'s Avatar
Babayaro. Babayaro. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Scotland
Posts: 16,024

Favourites (more):
BB10: Marcus
BB6: Science


Babayaro. Babayaro. is offline
Senior Member
Babayaro.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Scotland
Posts: 16,024

Favourites (more):
BB10: Marcus
BB6: Science


Default

It's an observation. I'm sure if I could be bothered, I'd find a lot. But I can't, so I won't.

22 footballers? People from all walks of life fail to follow lockdown guidelines every day.
Babayaro. is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 07:39 PM #15
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Default

Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.
__________________
Candy Annie Cane is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 08:06 PM #16
Christmas Dynasnow's Avatar
Christmas Dynasnow Christmas Dynasnow is offline
Crimson Dynamo | The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 107,420


Christmas Dynasnow Christmas Dynasnow is offline
Crimson Dynamo | The voice of reason
Christmas Dynasnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 107,420


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnieK View Post
Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.
Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?
Christmas Dynasnow is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 08:43 PM #17
Holly Christmas's Avatar
Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Holly Christmas Holly Christmas is offline
Kate! | IntoxiKated
Holly Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wigan baby yeah!
Posts: 36,324

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Elsa
The Traitors: Paloma Faith


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?
No. They aren't all reprobates.
__________________


Spoiler:

Holly Christmas is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 09:07 PM #18
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?
Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.
__________________
Candy Annie Cane is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 09:31 PM #19
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnieK View Post
Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.
He doesn't have the right political leaning or skin colour so he should just shut up and be a footballer, apparently.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 10:31 PM #20
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Candy Annie Cane Candy Annie Cane is offline
AnnieK
Candy Annie Cane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,908


Default

For every person who "abuses" the benefits system there is a person who "evades" paying correct taxes though. This stereotypical benefit scrounger **** needs to end when the upper class shift their money off shore to stop paying taxes. They are as much of a drain as the people they demonise for claiming state benefits
__________________
Candy Annie Cane is offline  
Old 26-10-2020, 10:53 PM #21
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
Default

arista is online now  
Old 26-10-2020, 10:54 PM #22
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
Default

arista is online now  
Old 26-10-2020, 10:55 PM #23
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
Default

arista is online now  
Old 26-10-2020, 10:56 PM #24
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,581
Default

arista is online now  
Old 27-10-2020, 03:19 PM #25
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

That's right, isn't it said that the majority are only 3 wageslips from homelessness?
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
award, efforts, free, gov, government, heard, hero, june, marcus, meals, obtains, rashford, school, title, turn, updated, wins


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts