[bots]

it's so obvious that there is an agenda against Boris at the moment, yet again, the media is directing everything. People say that the media has a right wing bias ... well, i think this shows things differently.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's so obvious that there is an agenda against Boris at the moment, yet again, the media is directing everything. People say that the media has a right wing bias ... well, i think this shows things differently.

This is the first thing they’ve dragged him for, 150,00 people died and they painted it as him being some sympathic leader that did everything he could

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Smithy

This is the first thing they’ve dragged him for, 150,00 people died and they painted it as him being some sympathic leader that did everything he could

which "media" specifically?

Twitter, facebook, The BBC, CNN, The Guardian, The Mirror, the internet, Commercial Radio?

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – The arguments between Mr Cummings and the PM seem to focus on
decisions examined in hindsight and, when made, being on the spectrum
between guesswork and certainty.

In favour of the PM, the public appears to prefer being vaccinated promptly and
not dying from Covid, rather than following the EU and landing up at the end of
the queue. If the PM is somewhat Machiavellian, at least he is our Machiavelli.


Dr Ramon Gardner
Cambridge

Todays Telegraph

[Liam-]

Whether it was a flippant comment or not really doesn’t matter though does it? The leader of a country going through an international health crisis, should not be talking about the people they’re supposed to protect dying in their tens of thousands so casually and heartlessly

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whether it was a flippant comment or not really doesn’t matter though does it? The leader of a country going through an international health crisis, should not be talking about the people they’re supposed to protect dying in their tens of thousands so casually and heartlessly

It's indicated it was said when he was heated up.

I agree with all you've said above.
It's staggering he'll get excused on this, plus it isn't only Cummings if he's one saying it
Both BBC and ITV have sources prepared to swear on oath he said it if they're asked to.

I do myself write off about up to 25% of extreme, heartless Con voters who would support anything the CONS do, immaterial of any consequences

How anyone else other than that hardcore of my own personal view and estimation of 25%, would however even try to dismiss, belittle or excuse the words in any context.

Is in my view despicable and insulting to those who've lost loved ones unnecessarily because of this PM's diabolical procrastination on the pandemic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I do myself write off about up to 25% of extreme, heartless Con voters who would support anything the CONS do, immaterial of any consequences

How anyone else other than that hardcore of my own personal view and estimation of 25%, would however even try to dismiss, belittle or excuse the words in any context.

up to 25%?

on page one of this debate you stated "Not to his over 30% heartless hardcore extreme Con supporters "

up to 25%
or
over 30%

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

up to 25%?

on page one of this debate you stated "Not to his over 30% heartless hardcore extreme Con supporters "

up to 25%
or
over 30%

It's simple enough if you read things properly.

The second post re 25% has in addition to being heartless etc, the line they'd support the Cons ' immaterial of the consequences'.

Very simple.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's simple enough if you read things properly.

The second post re 25% has in addition to being heartless etc, the line they'd support the Cons ' immaterial of the consequences'.

Very simple.

so around 6 percent are heartless AND will vote Conservative no matter what?

25% are just heartless but may vote Green?

[Marsh.]

Conservative **** couldn't give a toss about anyone but himself and his peers.

No. I'm not shocked.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Conservative **** couldn't give a toss about anyone but himself and his peers.

No. I'm not shocked.

It was a mute statement.. considering we DID go back into lockdown once he said it, well that just shows it was a throwaway comment..

Now think back a little further to tony Blair's words(lies) about weapons of mass destruction....cause that did end up in bodies being piled high.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It was a mute statement.. considering we DID go back into lockdown once he said it, well that just shows it was a throwaway comment..

Now think back a little further to tony Blair's words(lies) about weapons of mass destruction....cause that did end up in bodies being piled high.

I don't need to think of Tony Blair's disgusting crimes in order to falsely absolve Boris Johnson. That's bullsh*t logic. Nobody said he's the first twat Prime Minister. I'm sure he's not the last either.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't need to think of Tony Blair's disgusting crimes in order to falsely absolve Boris Johnson. That's bullsh*t logic. Nobody said he's the first twat Prime Minister. I'm sure he's not the last either.

Absolve him off what?

[arista]

TS

£90,000 Total Approx amount (For Above John Lewis standard)

take out £30,000 Auto Payment

NewsnightHD bbc2 last night
claimed a form of "money Laundering"
was used?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Owl lantern - £11,600

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Owl lantern - £11,600

Is it made of gold

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it made of gold

Its revolting !

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Owl lantern - £11,600

I assume that's above John Lewis

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

I assume that's above John Lewis

yes as is their Bear Sofa for £19,000


The sofa is made by British craftsmen who build wooden frames ready to be hand-sprung, hand-stitched and webbed using feather and down cushions

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes as is their Bear Sofa for £19,000


The sofa is made by British craftsmen who build wooden frames ready to be hand-sprung, hand-stitched and webbed using feather and down cushions

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

Its a sofa one would expect at Number 10 and may as well get one that lasts

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

[Tom4784]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit, and now doubt tory supporters will continue to defend him despite all his repeated failures.

'Oh bless him, he's trying his best xx' No, you say that to a child in an Egg and Spoon race, not to an incompetent arsehole that's running the country and constantly ****ing things up. If you can't handle leadership or are just generally incompetent, step aside for someone who can and who isn't.

If it was anyone but the tories, such a statement would be politically devastating, people need to hold the tories to the same standards as anyone else.

[Amy Jade]

How can some of you downplay Boris saying he'd rather see dead bodies in the street than close primark yet you're absolutely furious Meghan Markle took her kid for a walk?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

How can some of you downplay Boris saying he'd rather see dead bodies in the street than close primark yet you're absolutely furious Meghan Markle took her kid for a walk?

Indoctrination, mostly.

If a non-tory MP said this, the population would be out for blood, but because it's Boris, people downplay it.

I wish this country would become distinctly less stupid and discard the notion of loyalty towards a political party. If I support a party and they let me down, I no longer support them, I don't blindly cheer for them regardless, because I demand competence from leadership above all else. This country is spineless because we're too happy to bootlick the tories as they stamp on our throats.