[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Anyone over the age of 55 should not be able to vote

Ageism is no better than homophobia. You know that, right?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

Ageism is no better than homophobia. You know that, right?

He's a 'protected class' ...... so he thinks it's ok to dump on others.

[arista]

Labour is not going to Ban,
buy one, get one free offers

J. Ashworth MP (New) Labour Fella
speaking on Laura BBC2HD today

[Liam-]

Yet nobody bats an eyelid when people continuously demean young people

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yet nobody bats an eyelid when people continuously demean young people

I bat an eyelid but at the same time I respect increasing age and increasing experience, whether I give off a pompous know-it-all air or I don’t.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yet nobody bats an eyelid when people continuously demean young people

Here we go with the tit for tat bs .

[GoldHeart]

It's hilarious when plenty including myself are supportive towards lowering the voting age to 16 , yet some people think older people 'shouldn't vote' hmmm.... that's not very progressive is it ? .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer's Master Plan
to stay Elected.


Scotland is doing it.



Sunak Confirmed on The SkyNewsHD
Interview with
kids FYI club.

The Voting age is best at 18


A young lady from a Highgate School
gave a Video question to Sunak.
She wants to vote at 16
as labour will allow it
a right little madam

Todays youngsters are very immature.. they’d be better off increasing the age to 21


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[arista]

Sure Slim
that comes at the next Election
next year.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure Slim
that comes at the next Election
next year.

The pledge comes before the next election or after it?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The pledge comes before the next election or after it?

Just before The Next General Election.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Just before The Next General Election.

Keirsta Starmarista?

[joeysteele]

I still agree wholeheartedly with the reduction of the voting age to 16.

As I said before, teenagers I've talked to, talk far more sense about the Country and politics than some of those very much older.

I just wish Starmer, since he's open to it, something else he's open to but doesn't want to commit to yet.
Is to adopt PR for elections..
He'd ensure a likely landslide if he did.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still agree wholeheartedly with the reduction of the voting age to 16.

As I said before, teenagers I've talked to, talk far more sense about the Country and politics than some of those very much older.

I just wish Starmer, since he's open to it, something else he's open to but doesn't want to commit to yet.
Is PR for elections..
He'd ensure a likely landslide if he did.

Many 16 year olds are content to be messing around in class and throwing paper aeroplanes around when they should be revising for GCSE exams in a few weeks


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Many 16 year olds are content to be messing around in class and throwing paper aeroplanes around when they should be revising for GCSE exams in a few weeks


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And many adults are content to be pissing around on benefits when they "should be" working (apparently) so should they be denied a vote as well?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Many 16 year olds are content to be messing around in class and throwing paper aeroplanes around when they should be revising for GCSE exams in a few weeks


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I've seen and heard loads of utter more tripe and nonsense from people much older too.
I think the young often have a better idea of how things should be.

They couldn't make a worse mess than the current older generation have.
Look at the state of the Country.
Look at the chaotic mess there is

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've seen and heard loads of utter more tripe and nonsense from people much older too.
I think the young often have a better idea of how things should be.

They couldn't make a worse mess than the current older generation have.
Look at the state of the Country.
Look at the chaotic mess there is

My point is that teenagers seem to be getting more and more immature as time goes on .. I’ve noticed the decline over the last 30 years


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

My point is that teenagers seem to be getting more and more immature as time goes on .. I’ve noticed the decline over the last 30 years


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Maybe it's because you're getting further in age away from them?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Many 16 year olds are content to be messing around in class and throwing paper aeroplanes around when they should be revising for GCSE exams in a few weeks


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Tbf thats nothing new

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf thats nothing new

Fair point


I kinda feel sorry for this generation with so many distractions just as their GCSE exams approach .. who’s gonna want to revise for hours when they’re constantly bombarded by tweets , texts or links for Instagram , SnapChat and TikTok from their friends every minute of the day

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still agree wholeheartedly with the reduction of the voting age to 16.

As I said before, teenagers I've talked to, talk far more sense about the Country and politics than some of those very much older.

I just wish Starmer, since he's open to it, something else he's open to but doesn't want to commit to yet.
Is to adopt PR for elections..
He'd ensure a likely landslide if he did.

His team came out a few days ago and said he's never been in favour of PR, despite, y'know, previously being in favour of it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b2329451.html

Why does anyone trust a thing out of this mans mouth?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

His team came out a few days ago and said he's never been in favour of PR, despite, y'know, previously being in favour of it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b2329451.html

Why does anyone trust a thing out of this mans mouth?

I have on good authority that he is open to PR but NOT at this time.
That makes little sense to me admittedky.
His last statement on it when asked was, it's not a right policy for this coming election.

I think and hope, that PR along with other things he KNOWS full well are popular.
If he wins this time, that they'll BE policy for the election after.

He will be in massive difficulty if he fails to adopt them.
That's for sure.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have on good authority that he is open to PR but NOT at this time.
That makes little sense to me admittedky.
His last statement on it when asked was, it's not a right policy for this coming election.

I think and hope, that PR along with other things he KNOWS full well are popular.
If he wins this time, that they'll BE policy for the election after.

He will be in massive difficulty if he fails to adopt them.
That's for sure.

He's pissed away his tory incompetence lead, so we both know PR is never going to raise it's head. I don't know why you keep putting yourself through this, Joey. I understand the need to vote for him to get tories out, but i don't understand the need to keep pretending he's something he isn't.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He's pissed away his tory incompetence lead, so we both know PR is never going to raise it's head. I don't know why you keep putting yourself through this, Joey. I understand the need to vote for him to get tories out, but i don't understand the need to keep pretending he's something he isn't.

Because I believe perseverance can win through in the end.
I don't give up on things easily either

I've never really liked any recent Labour leader anyhow.
Or Con one.

I think you're wrong as to PR with respect.
It has now been passed twice at conference.
Very heavily last year too.
My thinking is, Labour will now adopt PR.
Not at the next election as policy.
However I do think it's coming and it can ONLY come via Labour because the Cons will never support it.
That's one of my main aims to fight for in the Party.

[Oliver_W]

I'm still not convinced that PR would "work", I'm still yet to hear a coherent way as to how it's compatible with our parliamentary system; as it stands, we vote for who we want to represent the constituency in which we live, in the Commons. Under PR the amount of seats for each party would be allocated based on the total votes across the UK.
How would the seats be allocated? Maybe something like ... each area should be represented by whichever party has the most votes in that area?