[Liam-]

You’re really going all out to defend Trump huh

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You’re really going all out to defend Trump huh

I look at the state of Democrats
not liking Biden
but still no one challenging him.


America is Split.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Oliver_W]

Does this affect his chances of rerunning for Prez? I know it's "only" a civil suit in which he was found guilty, so I don't think it can officially stop him, but the verdict might be a turn off for ... whoever decides who gets to run the Republican party members? Whatevs.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Does this affect his chances of rerunning for Prez? I know it's "only" a civil suit in which he was found guilty, so I don't think it can officially stop him, but the verdict might be a turn off for ... whoever decides who gets to run the Republican party members? Whatevs.

Trump die-hards will make all the excuses under the sun for him and disregard it entirely (as we've seen) but it might be offputting to other still free thinking Republicans who could have been convinced/swayed. It'll certainly have nudged some of those "on the fence" onto the other side of it.

[James]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Does this affect his chances of rerunning for Prez? I know it's "only" a civil suit in which he was found guilty, so I don't think it can officially stop him, but the verdict might be a turn off for ... whoever decides who gets to run the Republican party members? Whatevs.

You'd think there would be a big silent-majority in middle America that would be put off Trump by all this sleaze.

Trouble is most Americans think Biden is too old to run again, so they are not going to get much of a choice.

[user104658]

Biden is a whole other problem, it's just that the "but Biden" argument doesn't negate Trump. American politics isn't, or SHOULDN'T be, "Biden vs Trump" ... but it seems that's where we may be headed again.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Biden is a whole other problem, it's just that the "but Biden" argument doesn't negate Trump. American politics isn't, or SHOULDN'T be, "Biden vs Trump" ... but it seems that's where we may be headed again.

People need to realise it's not a one or the other .... atleast not for me anyway.

I support NIETHER! .

But anyone still defending Trump after this is laughable really .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

People need to realise it's not a one or the other .... atleast not for me anyway.

I support NIETHER! .

But anyone still defending Trump after this is laughable really .

You could say the same about johnny depp after he was found guilty, tbh.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You could say the same about johnny depp after he was found guilty, tbh.

I don't know why you continue to grind that axe over and over . There must be no pavements left where you live .

That's like if I decided to bring MJ up every chance I got .....as you digged your heels firmly in thinking he was 'guilty' , despite evidence against that. Funny how I'm in the 'wrong' to call Amber Heard a liar ? Hmm ok .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't know why you continue to grind that axe over and over . There must be no pavements left where you live .

That's like if I decided to bring MJ up every chance I got .....as you digged your heels firmly in thinking he was 'guilty' , despite evidence against that. Funny how I'm in the 'wrong' to call Amber Heard a liar ? Hmm ok .

You're not in the wrong calling amber heard a liar, but you did sit in the same boat as these trump supporters when johnny depp was on trial, considering a UK court had agreed he was infact a wife beater

Both these events, trumps, and depps, is about crimes against women.

Yet only one set of supporters, in your eyes. Is worth ridicule.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You could say the same about johnny depp after he was found guilty, tbh.

The Heard V Depp thing is completely different ... unless you think Trump's victim was also a lying, abusive shrew?

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Biden is a whole other problem, it's just that the "but Biden" argument doesn't negate Trump. American politics isn't, or SHOULDN'T be, "Biden vs Trump" ... but it seems that's where we may be headed again.

To be fair Biden won almost entirely because his alternate name was Not Trump. I'm obviously not saying Biden's (/family's/) actions minimise Trump's, but if he was carried by not being him, it adds some fairness to comparisons.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The Heard V Depp thing is completely different ... unless you think Trump's victim was also a lying, abusive shrew?

Depp vs Heard was completely different because it was a libel case that, in the end, basically hinged on an NDI they had both signed ... Depp sought reparations from Heard for libel/reputational damage, it was not (as some people imagine or misremember) a trial about Depp's abuse.

You're right enough about the claimant (Johnny Depp) being a lying abusive shrew though.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair Biden won almost entirely because his alternate name was Not Trump. I'm obviously not saying Biden's (/family's/) actions minimise Trump's, but if he was carried by not being him, it adds some fairness to comparisons.

The issue with Biden now is entirely Biden's own presentation, nothing to do with his family... all of that is a bit of a red herring. I also would bet my bottom dollar that the people bleating on about Hunter Biden had no issue with Mark Thatcher and his dodgy arms deals . Maggie remains Queen Tory.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I guess De Santis is like "im going to just wait this sh1tshow out and take my shot in 4 years"

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess De Santis is like "im going to just wait this sh1tshow out and take my shot in 4 years"

Momentum is everything, the world could be a completely different place in 4 years. It's a mistake to wait if he stands a reasonable chance now

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess De Santis is like "im going to just wait this sh1tshow out and take my shot in 4 years"

He can't even handle Books being in School Libraries.

[James]

The difference with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is that they are celebrity actors and you can just ignore their films.

A President is supposed to represent the whole country.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by James

The difference with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is that they are celebrity actors and you can just ignore their films.

A President is supposed to represent the whole country.

He wasnt a president then, and isnt one now.

God help america, if biden is supposed to represent them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He wasnt a president then, and isnt one now.

God help america, if biden is supposed to represent them.

but he is running for re-election, and this for sure won't have increased his supporters

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but he is running for re-election

He has no chance.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but he is running for re-election, and this for sure won't have increased his supporters

Yes, after this Case his Numbers went up
well over double of Old Biden.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He wasnt a president then, and isnt one now.

God help america, if biden is supposed to represent them.

Maybe Americans are forgetful like Biden?

[Alf]

She sounds very sane. Watch Anderson Cooper call to cut to a commercial break so that she can be re-briefed.

Absolute Clown World.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

She sounds very sane. Watch Anderson Cooper call to cut to a commercial break so that she can be re-briefed.

Absolute Clown World.

"It never happened, she's not my type."

Does that mean he assaults women that are his type?