[Liam-]

All round a very bad night for tories and polling companies

[bots]

logically, labour should win the next election, but more and more elections are won by the party that captures the public support for the issue of the moment. Brexit did it for the tories last time, opposition to ULEZ did it for the london candidate this time. Who knows what issue of the moment will surface in the run up to the election

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

logically, labour should win the next election, but more and more elections are won by the party that captures the public support for the issue of the moment. Brexit did it for the tories last time, opposition to ULEZ did it for the london candidate this time. Who knows what issue of the moment will surface in the run up to the election

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – The anti-Ulez victory in Uxbridge makes clear the only way the
Tories can win the next general election: the net zero targets and all the
impositions that would hit voters’ pockets must be scrapped in favour of
common-sense policies to grow the economy and make people’s lives easier.

The ban on new petrol cars in 2030 must go, as must the push for expensive
and inefficient heat pumps. Rishi Sunak should reshuffle his Cabinet to indicate
this radical change in direction.

Francis Bown
London E3

[bots]

add to that the woke agenda, the banks, immigration. There are a few bubbling topics that could win/lose an election

[joeysteele]

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

the lib dems are always like that until the results come in for the GE

[Cherie]

Its pretty grim that Labour didn't see the extension of the ULEZ charge as an issue and only changed tack half way through the campaign, how out of touch can you be?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its pretty grim that Labour didn't see the extension of the ULEZ charge as an issue and only changed tack half way through the campaign, how out of touch can you be?

Yes
Danny did not think it was important
at the start, then was scared of the press.

Danny was Labour Stupid

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
Danny did not think it was important
at the start, then was scared of the press.

Danny was Labour Stupid

You called it right as to ULEZ, well done.
Good forecasting.

It did become the main issue there.
Danny tried to reconcile the message from the doorsteps on ULEZ with the fudging of Starmer on it.
Certainly that's the major factor that led to not winning this seat.
I felt for Danny really.

However, Uxbridge and Ruislip, nor when it was just Uxbridge, plus Ruislip as Ruislip and Northwood, this area has NEVER elected Labour
Not even under Blair in 1997.

Whereas in Selby and Ainsty, when Selby was its own constituency Labour did hold Selby marginally between 1997 to 2010.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well it's got Ed Davey very excited anyhow.

Still a Small party

[arista]

The 2 Keirs and Angela

Now Live

[arista]

Last Night Keir, 25

[arista]

Uxbridge and South Ruislip - Conservative HOLD

Steve Tuckwell, Tories: 13,965 votes (45.16%)

Danny Beales, Labour: 13,470 votes (43.56%)

Sarah Green, Green: 893 votes (2.89%)


Somerton and Frome - Lib Dem GAIN from Tories

Sarah Dyke, Lib Dem: 21,187 votes (54.62%)

Faye Purbrick, Tories: 10,179 votes (26.24%)

Martin Dimery, Green: 3,944 votes (10.17%)



Selby and Ainsty - Labour GAIN from Tories

Keir Mather, Labour: 16,456 votes (45.96%)

Claire Holmes, Tories: 12,295 votes (34.34%)

Arnold Warneken, Green: 1,838 votes (5.13%)




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Uxbridge.html

[arista]

You nutter
using orange Paper like Just Stop Oli gits

[arista]

Sunak happy with his one win


He Stated no one expected
the Conservatives to win this Uxbridge seat.

[arista]

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Rishi Sunak is preparing to launch a more
aggressive political campaign in an attempt
to shift Labour's lead in the polls with
divisive policies on crime, migrant boats
and transgender rights, The Times reports.]

[bots]

i think the ditching of gas boilers and petrol/diesel cars have to go, the targets aren't going to be achieved anyway

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think the ditching of gas boilers and petrol/diesel cars have to go, the targets aren't going to be achieved anyway

I can agree with this.

The problem with the green issues are, not that they're wrong in my view, also too when asked about support for green issues, in polling they are even strongly supported.
Then however once there's a financial issue for people such as with ULEZ and the upgrading of vehicles etc; then that support drifts away.

How to reconcile that is the problem both Labour and the Cons need to find a way to address.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think i read that Khan made £100 million revenue in Ulez fines in 3 years

#cashgrab

[arista]

Starmer talking live in Nottingham
has had go at ULEZ,
picking on old cars, poor folks,
having to pay £12.50
a journey.

He does not want to lose other outer London seats/
at the general election.

But the London mayor will not stop it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer talking live in Nottingham
has had go at ULEZ,
picking on old cars, poor folks,
having to pay £12.50
a journey.

He does not want to lose other outer London seats/
at the general election.

But the London mayor will not stop it.

I understand a need to do something further on green issues however I cannot go with Khan on this.

This was generally accepted and it was Boris Johnson as Mayor who brought it in place.
For the London area.

However Khan has decided to extend it to the outer London areas.
Which has met with some opposition to it.
Did he consult enough or properly.
Starmer does need to apply some pressure to Khan on this as to its extension to the outer London areas certainly.

[DemolitionRed]

This greenwashed tax doesn't make the air any cleaner, does it?

[bots]

Khan has given 9 months notice of the scheme, during a period that is very difficult for everyone