[Jordan.]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

"Clothing/garments/items that promote cultural appropriation"

was added to the Ban list

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Clothing/garments/items that promote cultural appropriation"

was added to the Ban list

And what about things that promote The Force or Hogwarts or Power Rangers or Santa or Pennywise?


I'd wear my blond dreadlocks wig and no-one would stop me.

[Oliver_W]

People are responsible for their own actions

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

People are responsible for their own actions

no no if you go on a murdering rampage tomorrow its more than likely your parents fault nature v nurture, obvs Jordans parents have ALOT to answer for

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

no no if you go on a murdering rampage tomorrow it's more than likely your parents fault

I feel like you're being flippant here but this is actually 100% true . #1 factor linking almost every serial killer in history is childhood trauma, sometimes extreme, usually involving a parent or primary caregiver.

More generally (just average folks, not murderers) - violent people tend to come from violent families.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I feel like you're being flippant here but this is actually 100% true . #1 factor linking almost every serial killer in history is childhood trauma, sometimes extreme, usually involving a parent or primary caregiver.

More generally (just average folks, not murderers) - violent people tend to come from violent families.

Same with people who sexually abuse children - they're more likely than not to have been abused themselves.

But I'm not about to pathologise the behaviour of idiots who can't tidy up after themselves - I actually do care about the environment, but I don't think litterers are quite the same as murderers and rapists.

Being too lazy to pick up their stuff is entirely on them.

[bots]

adults are responsible for their own actions, else no-one would ever be guilty of any crime

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

adults are responsible for their own actions, else no-one would ever be guilty of any crime

Responsible for yes but, as always, explanations are not excuses and we should never let a public "resistance to excuses being made" (because some people don't understand that explanations are not excuses) stop any endeavor to find explanations and causes.

We don't say "childhood trauma can create criminals" to excuse the ones that have already been created... We say it to hopefully stop it before it happens. Obviously a utopian society is sadly never going to happen, but any improvement is still improvement.

Utterly maddening when people say "who cares what the reason was??" about killers.

Everyone should care. If you understand the reasons you might be able to stop someone else before it even happens.

[Redway]

Making a bit of a mess at a festival has literally nothing to do with generation or being paradoxically environmentally woke.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

Making a bit of a mess at a festival has literally nothing to do with generation or being paradoxically environmentally woke.

Agreed.

I'm definitely all for calling out litterers and the environmentally unfriendly. But it would never occur to me to link the actions to someone's age or assumed politics.

[Livia]

Royals don't need justification. They bring in a lot of cash, not just from tourists. Plus they're major employers. All the infos already online if people are truly interested and not just flogging the republican line. I could go on but I feel like I already have in threads actually about royals.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Royals don't need justification. They bring in a lot of cash, not just from tourists. Plus they're major employers. All the infos already online if people are truly interested and not just flogging the republican line. I could go on but I feel like I already have in threads actually about royals.

Ahh an exhaustive look into the things that matter when justifying the existence of an active monarchy.

1) Tourist income
2) Jobs for servants

Well, that's that then. A full social and economic analysis of the value of the monarchy. "There's tourism and they give some people jobs carrying their silver platters and picking their hats and stuff."

I'm 100% convinced now. Why could I not see it before? They're an unproblematic gold mine!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Ahh an exhaustive look into the things that matter when justifying the existence of an active monarchy.

1) Tourist income
2) Jobs for servants

Well, that's that then. A full social and economic analysis of the value of the monarchy. "There's tourism and they give some people jobs carrying their silver platters and picking their hats and stuff."

I'm 100% convinced now. Why could I not see it before? They're an unproblematic gold mine!

Your sarcasm is not humorous... in case you think it is.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your sarcasm is not humorous... in case you think it is.

I'm not looking for chuckles.

[bots]

Any other system such as a president would also employ a lot of staff, so that is a zero argument.

Everyone says, we don't want a blair or a boris as president, and that may well be true, but many people don't want a charles or a william either, but they are stuck with it. At least a president can be booted out after 4 years, we cant do that with charles

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Any other system such as a president would also employ a lot of staff, so that is a zero argument.

Everyone says, we don't want a blair or a boris as president, and that may well be true, but many people don't want a charles or a william either, but they are stuck with it. At least a president can be booted out after 4 years, we cant do that with charles

You say "many". I say "some".

[Livia]

Sigh......

[The Slim Reaper]

Always a bizarre argument the money they bring in, as if we wouldn't make more money from getting rid of them, and opening up their houses for the public to go round and visit Buck palace for £200 a pop. The septics and Japanese would flock through to see all the history.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Always a bizarre argument the money they bring in, as if we wouldn't make more money from getting rid of them, and opening up their houses for the public to go round and visit Buck palace for £200 a pop. The septics and Japanese would flock through to see all the history.

The idea that tourism would simply cease completely if we dismantled the active monarchy is mad. "I aint going to see those daft pyramids... there isn't even a real pharaoh living in them!!"

I was going to use the colosseum as the example ... but that thing would be packed full if they were having real gladiator battles in it.

Fingers crossed for Musk vs Zuck I guess.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The idea that tourism would simply cease completely if we dismantled the active monarchy is mad. "I aint going to see those daft pyramids... there isn't even a real pharaoh living in them!!"

I was going to use the colosseum as the example ... but that thing would be packed full if they were having real gladiator battles in it.

Fingers crossed for Musk vs Zuck I guess.

Pyramids were not houses, they were burial chambers

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Pyramids were not houses, they were burial chambers

There could have been a small wooden house at the top, it would have disintegrated over time... you weren't there...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The idea that tourism would simply cease completely if we dismantled the active monarchy is mad. "I aint going to see those daft pyramids... there isn't even a real pharaoh living in them!!"

I was going to use the colosseum as the example ... but that thing would be packed full if they were having real gladiator battles in it.

Fingers crossed for Musk vs Zuck I guess.

Yup. Could probably rent out the queens bedroom for £1 million per night to some crazy billionaires. So many more avenues to making money without them if that's the argument the royalists are sticking to.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Yup. Could probably rent out the queens bedroom for £1 million per night to some crazy billionaires. So many more avenues to making money without them if that's the argument the royalists are sticking to.

Not poor Liz's bed absolutely littered with cocaine and cum

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Yup. Could probably rent out the queens bedroom for £1 million per night to some crazy billionaires. So many more avenues to making money without them if that's the argument the royalists are sticking to.

It isn’t. You and SB could research the many benefits of constitutional Monarchies, but then you would find out facts that you would really prefer not to know.