[Zizu]

4 of these ‘people’ competed in yesterday’s women’s judo finals ‘

This is where we are at now !!






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[bots]

i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i haven't watched the olympics since the Steve Ovett vs Seb Coe days

I actually lost all faith in them after the Ben Johnson debacle!!


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[Cherie]

Giorgia Meloni, the Italian prime minister, says the Olympic boxing bout between Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Italy’s Angela Carini was “not an even contest”.

The bout was hugely controversial because Khelif has previously been thrown out of women’s boxing competitions owing to her male XY chromosomes. She was permitted to fight at the Olympics, however, because the International Olympic Committee, which governs Olympic sports, does not follow the same rules as the International Boxing Association.

When Khelif met Carini in their first-round welterweight contest on Thursday morning the fight lasted just 46 seconds before Carini withdrew with a suspected broken nose. The fight has heightened the controversy about athletes with abnormally high testosterone levels or other male characteristics being allowed to compete in women’s sporting categories.
Speaking after the bout, Meloni said: “I have been trying to explain for years that, when taken to the extreme, some theses risk impacting women’s rights.

“I think that athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not be admitted to women’s competitions. Not because we want to discriminate against anyone, but in order to protect the right of female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”

The Italian PM added: “I regret it [Carini’s withdrawal] even more. I was emotional yesterday when she wrote ‘I will fight’ because the dedication, the head, the character, surely also play a role in these things.

Carini said that she abandoned the bout because she could tell after one punch that she was outpowered.

“I got into the ring to fight,” said the 25-year-old from Naples. “I didn’t give up, but one punch hurt too much and so I said, ‘Enough, I’m going out with my head held high.’”

Her coach, Emanuele Renzini, stressed that quitting the bout was not planned in advance. “It would have been easier not to show up, because all of Italy had been asking her not to fight for days,” Renzini said.

“But Angela was motivated and wanted to do it. Of course when she met her opponent at the draw, she said ‘it’s not fair’. But there was no premeditation here today.

“She quit after taking one punch, she told me she didn’t feel she could fight. I tried to tell her to at least get to the end of the first round so we would fight, but she wouldn’t.”

Khelif is due to compete again in the quarter-finals on Saturday afternoon. Another boxer who has previously failed gender eligibility test, Chinese Taipei’s Lin Yu-ting, will make her Paris Olympics debut on Friday in the featherweight category.

Ministers hit out at Games criteria

The participation of Khelif and Lin was controversial even before Thursday’s knockout. The captain of the Australian boxing team said it was “incredibly dangerous” while one of Khelif’s previous opponents said she was simply grateful she had escaped from the ring safely.

Eugenia Roccella, Italy’s family and equal opportunities minister, said: “It is surprising that there are no certain, strict, uniform criteria at the international level, and that there can be a suspicion, and far more than a suspicion, of an unfair and potentially dangerous contest for one of the contenders at the Olympics, an event that symbolises sporting fairness”.

[Nicky91]

a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

a woman with masculine traits, nothing out of the ordinary tbh, some women are less girly than others

When was the last time you spoke to a woman face to face who wasnt your mum?

[Glenn.]

So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

So she’s actually a woman? Not a man?

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

On Thursday, the IOC’s spokesman Mark Adams was asked about the controversy. “I repeat that all the competitors comply with the eligibility rules,” he said. “But what I would say is that this involves real people. And, by the way, this is not a transgender issue. I should make this absolutely clear.”


Wow the bigots look silly now huh

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

Liam knows this he just likes throwing the word bigot around and telling everyone else they are gullible

[arista]

[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


Yes Ammi

She is a Man

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


Yes Ammi

She is a Man

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…edited to say that from everything I’m reading in her country…transgendering is illegal so it doesn’t seem likely for her to have their full support in this…(…which they’ve given…)…if she was assigned male at birth…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-kheli...-women-boxing/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-kheli...-women-boxing/

The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….

It was a live Debate On CNN HD USA


Private Information of what She/him
was born as
stays Private

[arista]

[The build-up to the fight was marred by controversy
following the inclusion of Khelif,
who was one of two athletes cleared to compete
in the women’s boxing after being
disqualified from last year’s women’s
world boxing championships in New Delhi
for failing to meet the necessary gender
eligibility criteria.]


Yes Reports she was a Male
originally

[Crimson Dynamo]

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling


Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of
male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling


Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of
male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

She has zero female facial characteristics

Just like these female Judo competitors



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[Livia]

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

So you're suggesting someone with XY chromosomes could be biologically female. LOL... Okay...

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trueee, twisting themselves in knots to justify their bigotry

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

She had higher levels of testosterone than the average woman. The XY chromosome story seems to be a load of crap as there’s been no actual evidence to prove this.

She failed a testosterone test which is the test they give her. No chromosome tests

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

She had higher levels of testosterone than the average woman. The XY chromosome story seems to be a load of crap as there’s been no actual evidence to prove this.

She failed a testosterone test which is the test they give her. No chromosome tests

High testosterone gives an advantage in power / endurance/ aggression etc

Its bad enough in other events but absolutely horrendous in combat sports


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