[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bots

A case for what?

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Kate, there is no case here. What did the CAB say?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

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Kate, there is no case here. What did the CAB say?

They said there was because I hadn't been allowed to give my side of the story. They said I'd have been within my rights to get the police. It was her word against mine. I've already explained earlier in the thread that she gave me the money as a thank you and I did not ask to borrow it. She's a bare faced liar. I hate that. She turned on the waterworks and made me look extremely bad. Some friend she turned out to be.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

They said there was because I hadn't been allowed to give my side of the story. They said I'd have been within my rights to get the police. It was her word against mine. I've already explained earlier in the thread that she gave me the money as a thank you and I did not ask to borrow it. She's a bare faced liar. I hate that. She turned on the waterworks and made me look extremely bad. Some friend she turned out to be.

Awful friend. Drop her

[bots]

A pub doesn't need to provide any reasons to bar you and unless the money thing has written documentation detailing the loan, there is no case. Also, any legal action will cost more than the amount you are talking about

[GiRTh]

Agree with these guys. Theres no case Kate. As for the police, unless one of you claims the money was stolen, the police will not get involved. Any kind of agreement for a loan etc is not a criminal matter.

[bots]

i'm sorry but if a landlord chooses to prevent you from entering his bar, he is entitled to do so. He doesn't need a reason, he doesn't need to listen to both sides, and i'm sure Citizens advice would have told you this

It does feel to me that you are only giving out one small portion of a story here. Why must you go to that pub in particular?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

i'm sorry but if a landlord chooses to prevent you from entering his bar, he is entitled to do so. He doesn't need a reason, he doesn't need to listen to both sides, and i'm sure Citizens advice would have told you this

It does feel to me that you are only giving out one small portion of a story here. Why must you go to that pub in particular?

I'm sorry but that's the whole story. That's all there was to it? The friendship is now over. As for the pub, I like it. I like the food, the atmosphere is good. I did nothing wrong to merit being excluded. I am rightfully annoyed.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'm sorry but that's the whole story. That's all there was to it? The friendship is now over. As for the pub, I like it. I like the food, the atmosphere is good. I did nothing wrong to merit being excluded. I am rightfully annoyed.

but its not your pub. The landlord decides who can enter, and he doesn't need to provide any reason to exclude you

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

but its not your pub. The landlord decides who can enter, and he doesn't need to provide any reason to exclude you

Yes, but to repeat, I did nothing at all wrong. And I wasn't aggressive, I just left the pub very quickly. It's very unfair. I don't expect you'd like it if it happened to you.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Yes, but to repeat, I did nothing at all wrong. And I wasn't aggressive, I just left the pub very quickly. It's very unfair. I don't expect you'd like it if it happened to you.

i've been barred from more pubs than i can count in my student youth

As i said, there is no legal path to you being allowed to return to the pub, so you were misinformed if you think you can legally do anything about it

[Kate!]

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

What were you accused of doing?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

What were you accused of doing?

My so called friend gave me ten pounds as a treat because I helped her out financially last week and then turned on the waterworks to the bar staff and said she'd lent it to me and I wouldn't give it back. So they barred me. She made me look really bad. It's all in the thread, you haven't even read it?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

My so called friend gave me ten pounds as a treat because I helped her out financially last week and then turned on the waterworks to the bar staff and said she'd lent it to me and I wouldn't give it back. So they barred me. She made me look really bad. It's all in the thread, you haven't even read it?

No need for that Kate. I'm trying to help but the details are a little confusing. At one point you said that both of you had given money as a gift so forgive me if I'm not up on all the facts. Thanks for restating the issue.

SO the accusation was that the money given to you was a gift and not a loan. How did the pub get involved? Was the money give by you ever considered a loan or was it just the money you received not the money you gave.?

EDIT: See how confusing it is. I got it wrong. That should read the "accusation was that the money given to you was a loan and not a gift.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

No need for that Kate. I'm trying to help but the details are a little confusing. At one point you said that both of you had given money as a gift so forgive me if I'm not up on all the facts. Thanks for restating the issue.

SO the accusation was that the money given to you was a gift and not a loan. How did the pub get involved? Was the money give by you ever considered a loan or was it just the money you received not the money you gave.?

No. Sorry GiRTh, I just feel like people are getting at me.

Ok to clarify, the money I gave her last week was a gift. 25 pounds. I didn't want it back. Then she gave me 10 in the pub, and said here's a treat to say thank you. So.i accepted it. Later she involved the bar staff by going crying to them saying I'd asked.to borrow it and wouldn't give it back. On those grounds they barred me.

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

I understand your frustration here. I was in a situation before where a pub kicked me and my friends out for rolling tobacco. They thought we was rolling weed. I even remember saying to them that if we were doing that, wouldn’t it be stupid to be doing it directly on the table and secondly you would actually smell it as well.

They kicked us out and instead of taking it further we just thought sod it there’s another pub 15 mins away, let’s just go there instead. There’s no point staying angry about it just find somewhere else you can enjoy.

Didn’t return to that pub for years afterwards and I remember my cousin saying once that he was in there with a few of his friends and they legit wanted to kick them out for laughing.

[Liam-]

Let’s try not to waste government funded legal help on being barred from a private business shall we

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Let’s try not to waste government funded legal help on being barred from a private business shall we

Excuse me. Would you not be aggrieved if you were barred for something you hadn't done? Because somebody lied about you?

[AnnieK]

Did any of the other ladies hear her say the money was a treat? I can't see what kind of legal case you could have but if the pub is part of a brewery, you could write to the Head Office and make a formal complaint against the barring and see if they will reverse it, giving the reasons you think you were unfairly dealt with if you don't think it's worth speaking again to the landlord now the dust has settled.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

You're not helping.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

The other lady, not that she is a lady tbh, has since begged my forgiveness and said she doesn't know why she did it? However I'm done with her. I won't be treated that way when I was so generous with her. You believe what you want, but it's very spiteful amd nasty minded of you.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

The other lady, not that she is a lady tbh, has since begged my forgiveness and said she doesn't know why she did it? However I'm done with her. I won't be treated that way when I was so generous with her. You believe what you want, but it's very spiteful amd nasty minded of you.

WTF these are new details. You still see her after what she did?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

WTF these are new details. You still see her after what she did?

No, she rang me up. I'll never see her again.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No, she rang me up. I'll never see her again.

Kate why did you even answer her phone call , people like that are dangerous....if they can switch at the drop of a hat ,amd start making false allegations.

I would steer clear of her , whether she's got mental issues or has shown her true colours...non of this is normal behaviour. And the bar staff/ manager sound just as bizarre , if anything you would think they'd ask both you & bingo lady to leave to ' keep the peace / be fair' .

It's not like you thumped her in the face or swore & shouted at the bar manager I assume?... otherwise it doesn't make much sense . The bar manager sounds miserable , if this IS your local / regular place to have a drink & eat food.... shouldn't they know you're not usually a person who causes trouble? ... surely you must have been to this pub a few times ?,so they should know you.

Plus why didn't your other friends vouch for you ?. Or
didn't they want to get involved?.


Them taking bingo lady's side is either they fell for her tears or I'm guessing she's considerably older ? ...and that's played a part in them giving her all the sympathy. The whole innocent poor little old lady routine... just a thought?.