[Zizu]

I was thinking that given the unparalleled , unprecedented success of the celeb version of The Traitors what do you reckon about the idea of dumping the civilian show in favour of a celebrity show every 6 months or so


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I loved the celebrity show but the original show left me cold and don’t bother with it

It was so more satisfying when you have people you like or love and others you don’t care for at all

[Benjamin]

No thanks. I’d rather they keep both versions.

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

No thanks. I’d rather they keep both versions.

Yes they should both

[Ammi]

….definitely both, I liked the Celebrity edition a lot but I think that I probably favour the civilian ones more, slightly…they’ve always had such tremendous casting…and I love getting to know ‘the unknowns’, that adds something also…

[Zizu]

Any know the comparable viewing figures ?

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Any know the comparable viewing figures ?

The normal one tends to get like 7million plus and celeb got 13 mil plus on finales

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Barry.

The normal one tends to get like 7million plus and celeb got 13 mil plus on finales

See that’s what I was kinda expecting .

Sooo why would they bother with the civilians when they have hit the gold using celebs ?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

See that’s what I was kinda expecting .

Sooo why would they bother with the civilians when they have hit the gold using celebs ?

They hit gold with both.

And because most of us like the civilian ones, plus a lot of people who watched the celeb one hadn’t watched before so will increase viewers for that. BBC will continue to run both so unsure why you think they’d cull civilian one right now.

Accept both will be running and just don’t watch the civilian one if you hate it.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Because most of us like the civilian ones, plus a lot of people who watched the cheer one hadn’t watched before so will increase viewers for that. They’ll continue to run both so unsure why you think they’d cull civilian one right now.

Accept both will be running and just don’t watch the civilian one if you hate it.

Well I will never watch the civilian one again as it has no appeal .. it was the famous people who were appealing .

My thinking was that the beeb are making programs to make money not to please the viewers so financially it maybe makes more sense to put all their ideas / efforts/ money into making the civilian series bigger and better

[Mystic Mock]

I always prefer Civilian Reality Shows over Celebrity versions.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I always prefer Civilian Reality Shows over Celebrity versions.

Really !!


I am the exact opposite normally

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Really !!


I am the exact opposite normally

I find that civilian contestants are normally more willing to be outrageous.

Which I personally prefer to see.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I find that civilian contestants are normally more willing to be outrageous.

Which I personally prefer to see.

Absolutely, and they are playing for the money for themselves.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I find that civilian contestants are normally more willing to be outrageous.

Which I personally prefer to see.

That’s a fair stance

[jones89]

So many people i know watched the celeb version never having seen the regular version so it definitely makes sense to keep the celeb one.. but i quite enjoy the regular series too

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jones89

So many people i know watched the celeb version never having seen the regular version so it definitely makes sense to keep the celeb one.. but i quite enjoy the regular series too

I actually started watching the very first ever episode and found it uncomfortable watching .. complete strangers pleading their innocence and some seemed to be revelling just having the cameras on them

I ditched it after about 20 minutes and never bothered with it until I saw Joe Marler and Joe Wilkinson were involved


I can’t wait for the next celeb version

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I actually started watching the very first ever episode and found it uncomfortable watching .. complete strangers pleading their innocence and some seemed to be revelling just having the cameras on them

I ditched it after about 20 minutes and never bothered with it until I saw Joe Marler and Joe Wilkinson were involved


I can’t wait for the next celeb version

So you’ve based your opinion of the civilian ones on just 20 minutes of the first episode and for that you think BBC should ditch the civilian one.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

So you’ve based your opinion of the civilian ones on just 20 minutes of the first episode and for that you think BBC should ditch the civilian one.

Well it may have been a longer than 20 minutes but my point was I that watching complete strangers ( some not particularly appealing ones) for a short while but ultimately it held no appeal to me

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well it may have been a longer than 20 minutes but my point was I that watching complete strangers ( some not particularly appealing ones) for a short while but ultimately it held no appeal to me

Well of course you won’t connect in 20 minutes. Same as BB, it takes more than 20 minutes to find faves to root for.

Your loss though, I really enjoy the civilian ones.

[Zizu]

Incidentally is there a reason why you make everything so difficult or personal ??


I was just speculating what the beeb maybe thinking after the unprecedented success of the celeb version

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Incidentally is there a reason why you make everything so difficult or personal ??


I was just speculating what the beeb maybe thinking after the unprecedented success of the celeb version

You are taking it as difficult. You offered a thread and I responded with my opinions on why they won’t cull the civilian one yet just because you (after only 20 minutes of watching a civilian season) believed it should be - the point of a thread is to discuss.

If you could also point out where I’ve made it personal. Laughing at you for your comments isn’t personal.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You are taking it as difficult. You offered a thread and I responded with my opinions on why they won’t cull the civilian one yet just because you (after only 20 minutes of watching a civilian season) believed it should be - the point of a thread is to discuss.

If you could also point out where I’ve made it personal. Laughing at you for your comments isn’t personal.

Why laugh at anyone’s comments in the first place .. I don’t understand much about you to be honest


Also we just don’t know what they are thinking or saying in their high level meetings

[Ammi]

…honestly this has got silly…there is nothing personal at all in anything Ben has said …it just feels like not a logical thing to think about a show being culled in any way that’s probably one of the ‘jewels’ of the BBC …it has been and is a phenomenal success and hence why the celebrities that it attracted where drawn to it in the first place, I would say…there is room for both and it would feel like such a crazy decision to take one away/the civilian one…let’s not live in a world of celebrity on our TV/let’s live in a world of regular everyday folk also and have them have life changing opportunities..

[Ammi]

…I mean and to be blunt, Zizu…you’ve stated yourself that you seem to have formed an opinion on a show that you’ve watched for 20 minutes/or a similar very short time and have dismissed it’s whole concept and only gained interest because of the celebrities/not because of the show in it’s format as such…that’s an opinion and thought that many, many people will be in line with because it’s one of the most successful and watched shows on the BBC, it’s become a phenomenon…not just in the UK but internationally as well…so it’s absolutely an opinion that you have that so many won’t share and actually will strongly disagree with…when that’s happened, which is inevitable…you’ve accused of accused of personal reasons which to be blunt…?..doesn’t make sense at all either when following the thread and everything that’s been said, there is nothing personal at all…it feels as though you’re ’imagining and encouraging conflicts that just aren’t there…’….anyway I’m off, this is just silly to continue…

[Ammi]

…48 posts over whether a show phenomenon should be culled as it’s still elevating its success…?…I mean, crikey…