[KissyLittleMissy]

i guess that it is not considered normal by some people. all of my friends and family and indeed myself are hetrosexual, but i have met gay people and they dont seem to be different to me when i talk to them but if people dislike them then that is upto them

[12bigbrother12]

Why do people dislike Gay People?


Because they are ignorant idiots

[Benji]

Couldnt have put it nicer myself - well...I could have but, ya know!

[cujo-man]

My dad dislikes them.

Don't know what the hell his beef is with them but oh well, each to their own!

[Benji]

He is obviously narrow minded and sounds Arrogant, but ya...Each to there own - Why arnt people open minded?

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Benji
He is obviously narrow minded and sounds Arrogant, but you...Each to there own - Why arnt people open minded?

Yea he is a bit, but maybe its a generational thing?

[Retroman]

On the topic of gay people...
I still don't understand why the majority of gay men are feminine and wear "pretty clothes" and have girlish mannerisms etc.

And the majority of lesbians wear jeans, jumpers, are quite well built and have mens haircuts.

Btw im not stereotyping, ive met and seen many a gay person and this is true for the majority.

It's like some subtle transgender behaviour? they don't want a sex change, but they look and act like the opposite sex.

What is also odd, is most lesbians ive met in my life who don't look like men, are ridiculously pretty girls who are man haters. They're the types to not talk to men most of the time...
If you can't afford to meet any, browse myspace instead. There's a ridiculous amount of lesbians who won't talk to men and have huge paragraphs on how much they hate them, and freely ask for naked pics of other girls on their profiles. Which I assume is because they're sexually deprived.

Which begs me to think that perhaps men treating them badly turned them "gay" when infact they're not actually gay, they'd easily be with a man if one would treat them properly. That, plus the "subtle transgender" situation I mentioned earlier, makes me believe that some gay people can be quite mentally confused.

[cujo-man]

I have a question aswell. Why do so many people associate high voices with gay people. Its not like people with high voices can help it (by the way I actually have a really low voice, so its not like I'm offended by it).

Just seems really strange to me.

[XxShortyxX]

Well I am bisexual, and I don't really care if people don't like me because of my sexuality. I wont lose any sleep over it lol. I happy with who I am, normally the people who don't like it, are the ones hiding and lieing to theirselfs, because they are really in the closet.

[Z]

Originally posted by Sod_James
Yeh u would think that. but honestly if my dad ever found out he would chuck me out the house then i would have no where to live.

Unlike a lot of people, who probably assume it'd be very easy to do that, I can totally see where you're coming from James. If you think your parents are likely to hate you, or fall out with you over it, and that's not something you'd want to happen, don't tell them.


To be honest, I don't see the point in "coming out" to people beyond a social situation where you're letting people know your sexual orientation. Can anybody explain this to me? Like, why tell your parents - they don't need to know?

[Lauren]

You only ever need to tell your parents if you're unhappy leading a double life.

[Sticks]

Have only just seen this topic

Perhaps because some people resent the word "gay" being hijacked, it used to mean bright and colourful.

Remember the poem about children born on various days of the week, and particularly the child born on the Sabbath Day? (Actually Sunday is not the Sabbath but that is a side point)

But seriously

Whether we like it or not, most western society is nominally "Christian" and a number of countries of Moslem. There is only one Jewish state.

Now in all of the Monotheistic religions, homosexuallity is declared as a sin and an abomination before God. In the book of Romans Chapter one, depending on translation, it is described as a perversion.

Now in a society where at least one of the monotheistic religions is dominant, this will be part of the national psyche. We see this in other ways, people who will not step foot in an Anglican church, yet remonstrate if this underused church is hallmarked for closure, have the pews removed or institute a policy where they will only "Christen" or marry people who are regular members.

Now getting back to the OP, as the ethics of the Monotheistic religion is so ingrained in our society, people will see Gays as "deviating" from what they are taught is right and proper, and anyone breaking the perceived moral code must be a neardowell and someone who must be shunned.

I can not speak for Judaism or Islam, but what people forget, from the Christian perspective, is if we run with the contection that the Bible declares homosexuality as a sin (If you want I can give other passages from OT and NT than Romans 1), then why is this "sin" different from say fraud, lying or drukeness. People get selective about sins and forget that they might be involved in that which some might find beyond the pale.

"For all have sinned and all fall short of the Glory of God" Romans 3:23

[Benji]

Originally posted by Z

Unlike a lot of people, who probably assume it'd be very easy to do that, I can totally see where you're coming from James. If you think your parents are likely to hate you, or fall out with you over it, and that's not something you'd want to happen, don't tell them.


To be honest, I don't see the point in "coming out" to people beyond a social situation where you're letting people know your sexual orientation. Can anybody explain this to me? Like, why tell your parents - they don't need to know?

To be honest, why does any gay person need to declare themselves to be gay? I mean, its not as if a Heterosexual person comes out and says Im straight!...well, i hope you know what i mean - lol

I know i do - lol

[Lauren]

Sticks, you make a valid point - however, I am going to challenge it.

I know many homophobic people and none of them are religious in any sense of the word - infact, most religious people that I know (including practising Christians and Muslims) are more open to homosexuality existing.
I think that homophobia simply comes from socially constructed idealisms - homosexuality simply does not fit in with the utopian viewpoint of a father with a wife and children - and unfortunately some people take this utopia to a new level and resent homosexuals for this.

In recent times (last 30 years), I think it's become a feature of exaggerated masculinity amongst teenage and young men. By calling someone a homohobic name you're declaring yourself as ultimately straight - and therefore "more manly" in terms of the utopian ideal.

[Sticks]

Because someone is not outwardly religious, does not mean they are uninfluenced by a religious culture. As a test ask the non religious associates what they think of women priests. If any say it does not seem right, then it will be a dead giveaway that they have been subliminally indoctrinated.

Where does the utopean ideal come from, could it have come from the subliminal indoctrination of our culture by the monotheistic religions

As to the religious friends, they will be more highly aware of the various teachings about loving people and their own shortcomings so in theory will be more accommodating.

[:)tom:)]

i go to a religious school.
not many people realy care if somebodys gay or not they just accept it as its nodays its not uncommon to meet a gay person. there a a few that make jokes or some people wont talk to them but there the people who are religious so it depends on the person and belifes on what they have been brought up on.

[indiemusic]

Well i love gay people. It means not all the girls get taken. Surely these gay haters should think of the benefits