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The X Factor 2004-'08 [S1-5] Discussion of previous series (2004-2008) and the contestants. Winners were Steve Brookstein, Shayne Ward, Leona Lewis, Leon Jackson and Alexandra Burke.

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Old 16-08-2008, 04:46 PM #1
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
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The only support he has is from Scotland.
Excuse Me?

Thats a bit of a massive assumption and quite insulting that you would assume that only scottish people would support a scottish person. I know many english fans that like Leon on other forums and many scottish people that dont.

Leona is english. Right? Does that mean only English people like her?. No. Because i like her and i am Scottish.

I am not trying to argue, It just annoys me, when people stereotype things just because of nationality and automatically assume that Scottish people are scottish celebrities only fans.

Its not like i am wanting Michael from BB9 to win, Just because he is scottish.
Completely true
I like Leona and am Scottish x
i think what Markus means is that Leon is **** and the only reason he won was because of the Scottish vote.
I know what he said. The "Scottish Vote" Stop Assuming that Scottish people only vote for Scottish Contenders.
I did not mean he ONLY has Scottish fans. I said the main reason he won was from The Scottish vote. It's true. The press built it up as Wales vs Scotland. I remember at the time of him winning, there was many people on here who thought the same.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
You do realise that the winners are signed up to Sony BMG, the company Simon works for, and they go under Simon's control? Dannii probably has no control over him. Simon doesn't care about who he mentored, he just cares about whether the winner is a cash cow or not.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the public's choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
He was her mentor on the show, but he is in charge and after the show its up to him to look after every winner of the show. His act or not. In series 2, Louis chose and asked to be Shayne's manager. Dannii isn't a professional manager, so she wouldn't know how to look after Leon. Weather Leon is as talented as Leona is irrelevant, Simon should be putting the same effort into Leon as he did with Leona. In fact, maybe more seeing as Leon isnt not as known or as popular as Leona.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Leona and Leon aren't the only acts signed to Simon's label. He can't give a full input to all, which is why there others working for him. Leona is probably their biggest selling artist/most popular - so if she is given treatment then it's only fair. She needs to keep up her image and release in new countries. And this time last year, we had NO news on Leona. Not even single news. Leon is getting the same coverage Leona did last year before her single was released.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
You do realise that the winners are signed up to Sony BMG, the company Simon works for, and they go under Simon's control? Dannii probably has no control over him. Simon doesn't care about who he mentored, he just cares about whether the winner is a cash cow or not.
Yes I do know, but Leon has said himself in newspapers that Dannii has been helping him in the studio.

Of course Simon cares, he may not come across it, but he grows close to his acts and wants the best for them, hence the reason he cares more about Leona than Leon
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the publics choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
You do realise that the winners are signed up to Sony BMG, the company Simon works for, and they go under Simon's control? Dannii probably has no control over him. Simon doesn't care about who he mentored, he just cares about whether the winner is a cash cow or not.
Yes I do know, but Leon has said himself in newspapers that Dannii has been helping him in the studio.

Of course Simon cares, he may not come across it, but he grows close to his acts and wants the best for them, hence the reason he cares more about Leona than Leon
I'm sure if Leon was his act and Leona was Dannii's he would still feel the same. Leona is clearly more profitable and marketable than Leon is. We'll see if Leon gets a number one in America.
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Simon has no faith in Leon. Leona is his money-maker. He doesn't care about Leon and putting little effort into even attempting to make him a star. Leon has been given the worst of Simon's people to look after him. Simon appears to putting more effort into SD then his is with Leon, which is unfair. Leon is the public's choice and the ultimate winner. I think Simon wants Leon to flop so in a way it makes Leona look better.
If he has no faith in Leon then what is this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainme...-be.4394899.jp
This is the first we've heard of him though, while Simon was doing all sorts to get Leona's name in the papers. Leon has said on his blog that he has only seen Simon a few times since he won the show.
Yeah that's because Simon was Leonas mentor though, so obviously he cares more about what Leona is doing and getting her name in the papers. Also, the fact that he was probably shocked he found someone as talented as Leona.
He was her mentor on the show, but he is in charge and after the show its up to him to look after every winner of the show. His act or not. In series 2, Louis chose and asked to be Shayne's manager. Dannii isn't a professional manager, so she wouldn't know how to look after Leon. Weather Leon is as talented as Leona is irrelevant, Simon should be putting the same effort into Leon as he did with Leona. In fact, maybe more seeing as Leon isnt not as known or as popular as Leona.
Why? He isn't the only act on the label is he? They hvae to put more work into Leona as for as long as they do, she's guaranteed big singles etc
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