[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing with that, it's just the replies like 'you're disgusting for saying that!' 'you should shut up with opinions like that' ETC.

Debate away, I like debate just don't deride him is all i'm saying.

Fair enough, I agree people shouldn't be insulting him.

But I feel given the sensitive nature it's expected some people are passionate at countering the OP.

[Wildcat!]

I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not gonna insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
so get off your high horse.

But it's so pretty

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Lauren

We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

[Annie]

Originally posted by Lauren

But it's so pretty

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Lauren

I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour.

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.

[Wildcat!]

Yeah I remember that. And a lot of those people still take jabs at him for it. I wasnt on that day, I just heard about it. YOu better believe it, if I was, I would be having the exact same reaction. And if I was to state what I think is disgusting on this forum, a lot of people would get it. And but I let them get on with it, either, I would respond saying what my opinion is of the situation, or I would normally just ignore it if it really pisses me off. This thread have pissed me off, and its not the OP's opinion that has, but the way the people on here love to gang up on someone, when they think they have the moral high ground on the subject. And funnily enough, I am betting a lot of them are joining in on the bashing, just to appear like moraly good people on this forum. Like anyone gives a shiit to be honest!


And the only reason I quoted your post Lauren, is because you stated that all people are doing is replying to the OP! Well they are not just replying, they are attacking him.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by Lauren

I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.

I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'

[inspector-frost]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not going to insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.

well said,this is a forum for discussion and to have a discussion people put forward their views and opinions.
it is an awful thing to be going through but how much truth is out there about it all-who knows.people have to go through things like this on their own in the privavcy of their own home each and every day.i know for a fact that if i only had months left to live i would spend every precious minute left in privacy with my family especially my kids!!!

[Annie]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[supernoodles!]

unfortunatly I think any people doubting Jade will be eating their words in the near future,I hope they feel bad,but they probably wont.

[Annie]

I remember the last time people on this forum doubted that someone was dying of cancer and they soon ate their words.

[Wildcat!]

Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'

The fact is they're both opinions, which we're entitled to have. I didn't state they were the same thing and you know I didn't.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.

well surely if their aloud to have their opinion we can have ours and call their opinion disgusting etc if we like.

[Wildcat!]

I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

[Annie]

But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Matt08

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

[Annie]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Annie
But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

Ermm first of all if that happened, I wouldnt give a **** what other people think or say about it. Secondly, if your mom had cancer, and exploited every opportunity to make money from the media, even posing for photos outside the hospital, then weather she was faking or not, I would think its perfectly understandable for people to have their say and speculate weather its fake or not. This wouldnt be the case, if she was like every other cancer patient in the world as far as I know. Nobody deserves what she is going through, but the speculations are warranted by her actions.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

Who are you to tell me what I can and can't say to someone? I've voiced my opinion on what I think of their views, my opinion is that they are cruel and sick.

[Lewis.]

I respect that OfficialLeafan Has an opinion like the rest of us, but i do believe that Jade would not do anything like this. No-body with any sense of Shame, would do anything like that, especially when her illness has been broadcast in such a high profile way? She is a clever girl and knows that if she was lying and it was revealed, she would be absolutely Hated forever by everyone. My thoughts are now with her and her family, who must be going through so much heartache! My wish is that she spends the rest of her life doing things she wants to do with her children and i wish her all the best for the future