[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
omg answer the questions instead of going on these strange ID cards tangents. Try to focus. ( clicks fingers)
2 points are on the board for you to answer.
#1 CBI credibility ( "well valid" was funny but didn't cut it)
# 2 The part deregulation played in the financial meltdown and whether a conservative governments policy of greater financial freedom for banks would have led to even greater losses. Losses that UK taxpayers now have to pay.

They are not in Power at this time
so you can make up anything you want.


And Billions wasted on New Labour ID Cards
is very topical in the UK.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by ange7

With the Torries it would have been worse because what screwed us was how deregulated the banking system was. This belief in "the market" sorting it out seems a joke when they come asking for cash from the state. Under the Torries the Banks would have had next to no regulation and would have gotten into greater trouble. Australia has a highly regulated Banking system and since the crisis 4 out of the top 15 Banks in the world are now Aussie banks. Before that they were ranked between 50 -100th. Government regulation didn't allow them to get too greedy and make stupid financial choices. Had the torriesb een in power this would have been so much worse for the UK.

yeh exactly...The Tories practically stand for de-regulation/no state intervention in business. Thatcher bloody started it! I'd like to see state intervention/regulation with the banks, gas/electric, water companies, transport. Lets hope something positive comes out of this recession!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista

They are not in Power at this time
so you can make up anything you want.


And Billions wasted on New Labour ID Cards
is very topical in the UK.

We are not making anything up! This is Conservative policy has been/will be...no doubt about it mate! Wtf ID cards lol!

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista

They are not in Power at this time
so you can make up anything you want.


And Billions wasted on New Labour ID Cards
is very topical in the UK.

I'm NOT making up anything ... it's there public held policy...lol.. whether they are in power or not they still have a policy don't they? OMG

Dude it's one of the main philosophical differences between the left and the right. You really are not up to speed with any of this are you. It's "small government", "small tax" " low regulation" of the right versus "larger government", "larger tax/ larger community spending" "greater regulation" of labour. Have you been living under a rock.... it's been like that for at least a century. hehe how can you say I'm making that up?

re the New Labour ID Cards .... like you said very topical but a tangent in this topic that you were forced down because your out of ideas.....read the topic header ...

[arista]

Brown runs this country
not the CBI.

Billions wasted on New Labour ID cards
need to be stopped.
Election is needed.


And I know you are not making it up.

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!


We are not making anything up! This is Conservative policy has been/will be...no doubt about it mate! Wtf ID cards lol!

Which is why New Labour are Frauds
Vote them out.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yes Brown may run the country,
but it was the banks/financial institutions that ****ed us all over and left us in the ****!
Brown is trying to rectify the situation caused by greedy business men
There would be no difference/we'd be worse off if the Tories were in Charge.

An election will do nothing to solve this crisis

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista

Which is why New Labour are Frauds
Vote them out.

Exactly how do reach the conclusion Labour are Frauds from this statement?

How are they Frauds?

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Yes Brown may run the country,
but it was the banks that ****** us all over and left us in the ****!
Brown is trying to rectify the situation caused by greedy business men
There would be no difference/we'd be worse off if the Tories were in Charge.

An election will do nothing to solve this crisis

But it will get Brown out of power

While he stays

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7901252.stm

The BNP are taking over
Why has New Labour Failed.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista

But it will get Brown out of power

While he stays

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7901252.stm


The BNP are taking over
Why has New Labour Failed.

How is getting Brown out of power going to benefit us? lol round in circles

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!


Yes but how is that going to benefit us? lol round in circles

Getting New Labour out
is what many now want.


Round in your own circles
for sure.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista

Getting New Labour out
is what many now want.


Round in your own circles
for sure.

Yes but what are you replacing them with?...you just havent thought this through...lets hope everyone else does!

Getting them out is not going to benefit us

[arista]

It will benefit us.
You have your view.
I have mine.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
It will benefit us.
You have your view.
I have mine.

Yes but my view is based on logic, reason, history, political knowledge...

Voting the Tories in is like throwing oil on a fire!

[NettoSuperstar!]

And you keep saying it, but HOW will it?

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yes but my view is based on logic, reason, history, political knowledge...

Voting the Tories in is like throwing oil on a fire!

So many do not see it your ProNew Labour way.


It is time for a Change.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista

So many do not see it your ProNew Labour way.


It is time for a Change.

Im sure they do but they are equally illogical. You havent answered HOW it will benefit us?

[arista]

You will find out soon

[Dom:D]

Woah!!

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Brown runs this country
not the CBI.

Billions wasted on New Labour ID cards
need to be stopped.
Election is needed.


And I know you are not making it up.

lol...mate YOU brought up CBI not me .... and you STILL haven't answered the 2 question that were on the table.

You haven't made a single point that makes sense but you the wimp out with "you have your view I have mine". Then have the b@lls to argue it.

[andyman]

World war 2 pulled the united states out of the 1930s slump.. Which the wealthy slowly flilted through into europe during the 50s. The uk has been living on credit ever since and will have to, our future is with America and China, also China buying more debt from us which the united states have been doing for years! No matter which government we have they still have to play by the same global ball game, plus the Tories are in no fit shape to have a play... Could take 10 years for the uk to be out of this recession.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7

lol...mate YOU brought up CBI not me .... and you STILL haven't answered the 2 question that were on the table.

You haven't made a single point that makes sense but you the wimp out with "you have your view I have mine". Then have the b@lls to argue it.

Re-CBI.
But that is in a Paper - you can not read
as you havbe a problem with it.

The Sense is Brown is no longer wanted
Fact.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
You will find out soon

Oh yeh we will find out soon...when people are dying in hospital corridors...More baby Ps...and the schools fail are children which ****s up the future of the economy! Oh yeh CHANGE will come alright!

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Oh yeh we will find out soon...when people are dying in hospital corridors...More baby Ps...and the schools fail are children which ***** up the future of the economy! Oh yeh CHANGE will come alright!

Thats Corrupt New Labour you are Talking about , sadly

[arista]