[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh exactly most of its talk Ive never really seen any proper evidence like...The England flag was paraded round by the National Front (buncha racists from around the 80s) so I guess it still has negative connotations in some peoples eyes. It shouldnt these days but yer know I guess if you were an asian shopkeeper who had his shop vandalised and grafittied with P*ki out etc, and the people who did it went round with the england flag you might not forget so quick

[Wildcat!]

When are you guys gonna learn, not to bring bring up anything like that on Tibb! Its the classic example of aweep everything under the rug! Trust me, dont bother, you will not accomplish anything. Just like someone said previously, it only feels like repeatedly banging your head on the brick wall.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
When are you guys going to learn, not to bring bring up anything like that on Tibb! Its the classic example of aweep everything under the rug! Trust me, dont bother, you will not accomplish anything. Just like someone said previously, it only feels like repeatedly banging your head on the brick wall.

yeah but silence can be seen as acceptance by racists. It doesn't take much to post what you think and if someone is talking rubbish ( whether via ignorance or real hate) it deserves a comment.

Tom, "black coffee" is an example of political correctness gone mad??
It would be if it ever really happened. Why is that factoid even floating around in your head? The problem is a lie like that on the part of the daily mail wouldn't be hard to see through but instead you choose to store it your memory.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7

yeah but silence can be seen as acceptance by racists. It doesn't take much to post what you think and if someone is talking rubbish ( whether via ignorance or real hate) it deserves a comment.

Tom, "black coffee" is an example of political correctness gone mad??
It would be if it ever really happened. Why is that factoid even floating around in your head? The problem is a lie like that on the part of the daily mail wouldn't be hard to see through but instead you choose to store it your memory.

Its floating around because it actually is banned in the UK; its coffee without milk apparently.

[30stone]

Originally posted by Tom

Its floating around because it actually is banned in the UK; its coffee without milk apparently.

Just like at one point they were trying to get the black jelly babies banned ...

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by ange7

yeah but silence can be seen as acceptance by racists. It doesn't take much to post what you think and if someone is talking rubbish ( whether via ignorance or real hate) it deserves a comment.

Tom, "black coffee" is an example of political correctness gone mad??
It would be if it ever really happened. Why is that factoid even floating around in your head? The problem is a lie like that on the part of the daily mail wouldn't be hard to see through but instead you choose to store it your memory.

Oh I agree with you! But I have just realised from posting here, that nothing you say, can make much of a difference in my opinion. Because the same question, always finish with the same answers, or plain disdain for even bringing up the subject.
So I was just telling the other posters whove been down that road before.

[Ninastar]

Yeh Sorry if I cause any arguments. I dont want to do that.

[ange7]

Originally posted by 30stone

Just like at one point they were trying to get the black jelly babies banned ...

"its coffee without milk apparently" you did not just type that!!!.
And it's banned in the UK? WTF? lol... don't think so mate.

"black jelly babies" ... sweet *****ing jesus yes that is JUST like Tom's "black coffee" example, in that it was made up by the daily mail too. You guys know that all these "political correctness" stories are just fake internet stories right? They get started on the internet and make it to the papers via lazy journalist. Question is why do you guys bite instead of seeing them as rubbish? What is it that makes you want to believe them?

[30stone]

I was just giving an example.
It went further than the daily mail aswell.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Oh I agree with you! But I have just realised from posting here, that nothing you say, can make much of a difference in my opinion. Because the same question, always finish with the same answers, or plain disdain for even bringing up the subject.
So I was just telling the other posters whove been down that road before.

Nah c'mon ,it does make a difference...even if you think it doesn't some of it sinks in... even if their pride doesn't let them admit it. At least they think twice next time.

[ange7]

Originally posted by 30stone
I was just giving an example.
It went further than the daily mail aswell.

those pc gone mad stories go all over the world and get tweaked by journalist locally to fit each country.
Some see through it... some make a mental note of it and bring it up in threads about racism. Question is why are lots of the examples of pc over reactions that some people carry around in their head exclusively about race?

[ange7]

Originally posted by Ninastar
Yeh Sorry if I cause any arguments. I dont want to do that.

nah good for you for starting the thread.
rasicm is like vomit... better out than in

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh exactly has anyone ever seen any actual evidence that these silly stories are true? I doubt it very much

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by ange7

nah good for you for starting the thread.
rasicm is like vomit... better out than in

At least you thought about the subject Ninastar. Means you care. Much better than people who cant be bothered. YOur opinion, means you will have some input from different people. So you can get a good balanced opinion.
Maybe youre right Ange7, you can even make one person think twimce. That's always a good thing.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7

"its coffee without milk apparently" you did not just type that!!!.
And it's banned in the UK? WTF? lol... don't think so mate.

"black jelly babies" ... sweet *****ing jesus yes that is JUST like Tom's "black coffee" example, in that it was made up by the daily mail too. You guys know that all these "political correctness" stories are just fake internet stories right? They get started on the internet and make it to the papers via lazy journalist. Question is why do you guys bite instead of seeing them as rubbish? What is it that makes you want to believe them?

They don't start at the Daily Mail

[ange7]

Originally posted by Tom

They don't start at the Daily Mail

you a daily mail fan?
In the thread I later went on to say "those pc gone mad stories go all over the world and get tweaked by journalist locally to fit each country." Either way the stories are fictitious lies, whether they are made up from viral net stories or made up by mail staff. They get printed in papers for the same reason they are so viral on the net... ie people are interested in any stories that seem to say "all the world is retarded...except for me". It makes theme feel better.

I know your a big fan of the Daily Mail, I mean all your facts and examples of PC gone mad seem to come from there. The question remains ..... why are you so eager to swallow clearly made up stories and use those "facts" as examples in a thread about race? And why do most of your examples of "pc gone mad" behaviour specifically pertain to race?

[letmein]

Originally posted by Ninastar
Ok I know some of you will be like wtf its not taken seriously enough but in schools I think they are way to defensive about it. Like this week, in my year at school there has been like 3 or 4 fights, in one of which someone broke their thumb and had to go to hospital and then this one boy said something about black to another boy. out of all of this one of the boys got permanently expelled. This was the boy who said something like "black mother****er".

Anyway that's not the only reason. I have seen it in other ways too! Like I really really don't get how saying "****" is racist when British are called "Brits" and Americans get called "yanks" etc!
I am not trying to cause a fight or anything but does anyone agree with me?

You just described racism. Haha.

[Nurse57]

This matches with my view on "political correctness gone mad"

Youtube video

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7

you a daily mail fan?
In the thread I later went on to say "those pc gone mad stories go all over the world and get tweaked by journalist locally to fit each country." Either way the stories are fictitious lies, whether they are made up from viral net stories or made up by mail staff. They get printed in papers for the same reason they are so viral on the net... ie people are interested in any stories that seem to say "all the world is retarded...except for me". It makes theme feel better.

I know your a big fan of the Daily Mail, I mean all your facts and examples of PC gone mad seem to come from there. The question remains ..... why are you so eager to swallow clearly made up stories and use those "facts" as examples in a thread about race? And why do most of your examples of "pc gone mad" behaviour specifically pertain to race?

I don't read any papers let alone the Daily Mail so I'd appreciate it if you didn't make assumptions and try to pass them off as facts.

[Z]

I don't think anyone (or I'd hope they aren't) is trying to say racism shouldn't be taken seriously. It's more a question of how far can political correctness go before we're going backwards, and not forwards? In my experience; which as a young white man is going to be entirely different to the experiences of people of different races and genders; racism and racist are terms that are thrown around far too easily. White people are now, I think, easily scared into not speaking to people of other races, not because they're racist, but because they don't want to be accused of being racist; and to the neutral eye it looks as if they are being racist. The number of friends I have who are of an ethnic minority is less than five, because I live in an area where there are very few people of different ethnicities/races, and I feel as though this is a poor reflection on me, even though that's not my fault. Surely racism is not as bad as it was a few decades ago, at least here in the United Kingdom? I don't know, I've only been around for seventeen years :P.

[sayj]

I totally agree with Shaun I have no time for ignorant people! I'm not just saying it because I'm Indian, I've always had this view! And yes calling a person a **** is racist as the term is generally aimed at all Asians when being racially abused(verbally) ignorant people fail to realise that the word **** is derived from the word pakistani and not all asians are from pakistan! There's just no need for racism people should just live and let live!

[Nurse57]

But that is not fair. In a democracy I have the the right to be an ignorant racist ******-wit.

admin edit: watch your language please

[Lauren]

I just googled the "black jelly baby" story after reading it here.
Two things;
1) Daily Mail was the predominant report.
2) They didn't ban the black jelly baby. Read the story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...000-trial.html

Also, reading the article, the mail seems to push the fact that the trial was a "joke" and portrays the perpetrators as victims, saying the trial ruined his marriage.

[sayj]

Originally posted by Nurse57
But that is not fair. In a democracy I have the the right to be an ignorant racist ****-wit.

That is ofcourse your opinion but believe you wont get far with that kind of attitude as people will retaliate so it's a never ending story!

[Ninastar]

Originally posted by Zee
I don't think anyone (or I'd hope they aren't) is trying to say racism shouldn't be taken seriously. It's more a question of how far can political correctness go before we're going backwards, and not forwards? In my experience; which as a young white man is going to be entirely different to the experiences of people of different races and genders; racism and racist are terms that are thrown around far too easily. White people are now, I think, easily scared into not speaking to people of other races, not because they're racist, but because they don't want to be accused of being racist; and to the neutral eye it looks as if they are being racist. The number of friends I have who are of an ethnic minority is less than five, because I live in an area where there are very few people of different ethnicities/races, and I feel as though this is a poor reflection on me, even though that's not my fault. Surely racism is not as bad as it was a few decades ago, at least here in the United Kingdom? I don't know, I've only been around for seventeen years :P.

yeh I completly agree.!!