[SirTech]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
wasnt going to put this on here but here we go i have been at the point before where i have very nearly commited suicide myself in no way what so ever was i being selfish or cowardly i was weak in terms of the depression i was dealing with taking over completely of my life but i was not weak there is a difference those who judge clearly have never ever been at the point in life where it all seems so bleak and dark try dealing with depression which is a common cause of suicide before judging people who do commit suicide under the blanket lets judge people terms

aww , i can understand , sometimes you just want it all to end , but i'm sure you found out suicide isn't the answer

[arista]

Originally posted by lili
Yanks?

That offends me.

It Should Not
when I was in New York
they called me Blighty
and that is now a TV channel name.

[JOSHUAH!]

I think people who are suicidal need a lot of support and I can't say I've experienced it but I do know that it must be horrible to just get to such a point in your life were you have to end it. Like that married couple whose son died days earlier, and they went and jumped off Beachy Head - thats horrific and some would say, why waste your lives?

But if you child died it must be the worst thing that could happen and I feel sympathy with them and in some ways understand why they did what they did.

& PinkMich I'm glad you're a lot better now and your here for your daughter and to see her growing up

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by SirTech

aww , i can understand , sometimes you just want it all to end , but i'm sure you found out suicide isn't the answer

no its not like that at all where you sometimes want it to end when i was at my darkest i was in the grips of depression due to varies things that were happening in my life (which i refuse to put on a public forum those who know me know all i have dealt with and if you had too you'd be depressed as well) the darkness i felt was not something i could control and let me tell you this making a decision to end your life is not a simple one

[Tom4784]

I'm not being narrow minded, i'm just saying that there's always another way, suicide is selfish. When a person commits suicide, they leave their families with grief, confusion and their problems. I've seen what it does to the ones that get left behind that's why I've got no sympathy because the suicidee will never have to deal with the aftermath of their actions.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by 30stone
I feel suicide is the cowards way out generally, other than extremem circumstances.

I'd say anything that would cause someone to kill themselves must be extreme circumstances.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I'm not being narrow minded, i'm just saying that there's always another way, suicide is selfish. When a person commits suicide, they leave their families with grief, confusion and their problems. I've seen what it does to the ones that get left behind that's why I've got no sympathy because the suicidee will never have to deal with the aftermath of their actions.

And what about people who commit suicide because they HAVE no friends or familys?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Hugo

I'd say anything that would cause someone to kill themselves must be extreme circumstances.

Definitely this. Excellent point Hugo.

No-one kills themselves unless they see no other option, no-one just makes a quick decision to kill themselves. They've obviously suffered long term to get into the state of mind of actually ending their life! I honestly have nothing but sympathy for someone who has killed themselves, because I can't begin to imagine how much longterm suffering they've endured to get to that state of mind.

I'm leaving the topic too, now, as well as Linda, because some of the posts in here are frankly quite insensitive. (Note: I don't mean 30stone, despite him being the one I'm quoting - I mean others).

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I'm not being narrow minded, i'm just saying that there's always another way, suicide is selfish. When a person commits suicide, they leave their families with grief, confusion and their problems. I've seen what it does to the ones that get left behind that's why I've got no sympathy because the suicidee will never have to deal with the aftermath of their actions.

There may be Another Way
but the person that ends there life
maybe stuck
through no fault of there own.



And Dezzy
You can be Cold.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by Stu

And what about people who commit suicide because they HAVE no friends or familys?

Then my opinion doesn't apply to them, I only have no sympathy for the ones who leave people behind. For people who don't have a support network around them I have sympathy because they haven't got anyone for support. Being totally alone is one of my worst fears so I'd have sympathy for anyone in that situation. If you have family though you have support and responsibilities and commiting suicide can destroy the ones you love.

[Sod_James]

Sometimes family can actually contribute to someone who commits suicide.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Sod_James
Sometimes family can actually contribute to someone who commits suicide.

agreed also it takes a lot for someone feeling depressed etc to even go to the doctor so asking support isnt always easy even if there is plenty of people there to give it

[Sod_James]

Originally posted by pinkmichk

agreed also it takes a lot for someone feeling depressed etc to even go to the doctor so asking support isnt always easy even if there is plenty of people there to give it

A good point. A person who suffers from depression can be surrounded by hundreds of people and still feel completly cut off from everyone. Asking for help is the most difficult part of it all.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy

Then my opinion doesn't apply to them, I only have no sympathy for the ones who leave people behind. For people who don't have a support network around them I have sympathy because they haven't got anyone for support. Being totally alone is one of my worst fears so I'd have sympathy for anyone in that situation. If you have family though you have support and responsibilities and commiting suicide can destroy the ones you love.

No sympathy AT ALL? None?
Taking into account how much emotional suffering they've had to endure in order to pushed into the corner of suicide?

[MarkWaldorf]

pinkmichk your sig is effing hot!

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
pinkmichk your sig is effing hot!

thanks it is rather

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by Lauren

No sympathy AT ALL? None?
Taking into account how much emotional suffering they've had to endure in order to pushed into the corner of suicide?

I've seen how the aftermath affects the living. It derails people's lives, they pass all that pain to the people left alive. Call me all the names under the sun but I couldn't forgive or sympathise with someone who would do that to their own family and friends.

I'm only talking from the experiences I've witnessed. It's a cold view but deal with it. I'm not being made a villain just because I sympathise with the people who have to deal with the ramifications of someone's actions.

[arista]

Yes Dezzy
it can be a Shock that destroys lives.

It can also be a person Alone
like the Guy who was in the KungFu TV series
found hanged in his hotel.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...hailand_Police

[Killian]

This thread worries me.

[SirTech]

Originally posted by Killian
This thread worries me.

so does your avatar

[Killian]

Originally posted by SirTech

so does your avatar

Tyra swirling ftw.

[Tom4784]

She looks like she's stuck in a plug hole.

[Stu]

Originally posted by arista
Yes Dezzy
it can be a Shock that destroys lives.

It can also be a person Alone
like the Guy wo was in the KungFu TV series
found hanged in his hotel.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...hailand_Police

Yeah, David Carradine. As opposed to 'the KunkFu TV series' I expect most people know him on here as Bill from the Kill Bill series of movies. I am holding my breath on that one, to be honest. A Thai hooker could have done all sorts of foul play. It is not beyond the Thai police to cover such things up.

[arista]

Yes if a Hooker was in his Room?

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
Yes Dezzy
it can be a Shock that destroys lives.

It can also be a person Alone
like the Guy who was in the KungFu TV series
found hanged in his hotel.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...hailand_Police

It's very out of the blue, He was brilliant in Kill Bill.