[tintedshadow]

yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

[boomoo]

Davina saying that something has not been said is ot necessarily correct.

At the very beginning when someone said that Lisa and karly were discussing noms she said, 'C4 have carefully scruutinised the tapes and they were not discuiing noms'.

Well I have seen them doing just that on several occasions.
'We know the next three' with a nod in a certain direction IS discussing noms in my book. They do it after every eviction.

Saying ' we thought Freddie had changed, but he is still the same' will mean that Freddie will be nominated again.

They think they are clever but karly and Lisa have still not realised this.

We vote out the people we want out.

Kris denied being absolutely nasty to Freddie and he was. He denied calling Noirin a rabbit because Lisa said no one called her a rabbit. that was true but they did say she hopped from one group to another. Siewash interpreted that as the action of a rabbit, Kris said butterfly. Same difference.

Siewash was trying to protect himself and as a result he may be out next week. He should of course be given a challenge.
He was the first to realise that the public were supporting Freddie.

It was sickening the way Kris said it ruined the week being up for eviction.
What about Freddie who has had to pack and unpack his case for 5 times. people are saying he is getting arrogant. No he is getting used to packing and unopacking his case every week and cannot really relax.

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

Yes of course. If Karly and Kris really did give her that nickname then he is being totally honest. A nickname is something that is used all the time also

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Staceee

Yes he did!
I forgot that one he also said to Karly he hadn't said anything behind her back

Suffice to say.........if siavash told me it was Saturday, I'd go and check a calendar first.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Staceee

Yes of course. If Karly and Kris really did give her that nickname then he is being totally honest. A nickname is something that is used all the time also

im not for one second trying to imply the nickname is derogatory,more so that despite the trivial nature of the name it had actually been said.rodrigo lisa kris karly and siavash were all there when it was said,karly said it and not in a negative way but none the less it was said..

so when siavash bought it up,he meant it only as to say "just be aware some people think this,so dont pander to them or that idealogy"...

i fail to see how anyone can call him a shiit stirrer when compared to the likes of lisa, noirin or indeed kris for that matter..

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

im not for one second trying to imply the nickname is derogatory,more so that despite the trivial nature of the name it had actually been said.rodrigo lisa kris karly and siavash were all there when it was said,karly said it and not in a negative way but none the less it was said..

so when siavash bought it up,he meant it only as to say "just be aware some people think this,so dont pander to them or that idealogy"...

i fail to see how anyone can call him a shiit stirrer when compared to the likes of lisa, noirin or indeed kris for that matter..

Yeah like I said if I saw the evidence my opinion would change. You are the first person I personally have heard say that they DID call her a rabbit so this is new to me

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

whi is s**t stirrer now?

[Staceee]

Originally posted by charliegimbert

whi is s**t stirrer now?

How? These are my opinions.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Look - Siavsh DID NOT lie. End off.

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by Staceee

How do you know they did call her a Rabbit?
I know they didn't because Davina said on BBBM that Siavash was lying. And it's obvious he was lying by the way he said to Karly in the bedroom that he hadn't said anything behind her back. Which of course was another lie.

i didn't hear davina say that siavash lied but if she did say that then it must be true, i can't see davina lying, but i'll still remain sceptic until they show coverage of kris & karly calling noirin a rabbit

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by peacemaker

i didn't hear davina say that siavash lied but if she did say that then it must be true, i can't see davina lying, but i'll still remain sceptic until they show coverage of kris & karly calling noirin a rabbit

I watched BBBM today on E4 (from last night) and no where did Davina say that Siavash lied.

[sisalto]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I watched BBBM today on E4 (from last night) and no where did Davina say that Siavash lied.

More importantly, Davind never said Siavash didn't lie - therefore all we have is the word of Kris and Karly who both said they didn't say anything about Rabbit..