[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

joke, like if Eamonn Holmes had met a minor and then went on to have sex in HIS ITV DRESSING ROOM when they became legal the reaction would be any different..

disgusting

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

I'd ignore the Media as they always love to look for prejudice in their headlines nowadays.

I have no doubt that some people will be Homophobic towards Phillip Schofield, but I think (and like to believe) that most people want to get to the bottom of just wtf was going on between the two guys in exact detail.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The only homophobia has come FROM Schofield

using his sexuality as a media bargaining chip to cover up his desire for teenage boys

[arista]

Monday 10AM

Holly and Tubby

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by arista

Monday 10AM

Holly and Tubby

Your an arshole arista

[UserSince2005]

Lol at him threatening to kill himself if we don’t stop talking about it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Lol at him threatening to kill himself if we don’t stop talking about it.

Yep. As Soldier TS has alluded to, its like a petulant child saying 'Mom if you don't buy me a new car, I'll kill myself'. Its manipulative

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Yep. As Soldier TS has alluded to, its like a petulant child saying 'Mom if you don't buy me a new car, I'll kill myself'. Its manipulative

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercion

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercion

Agree. Cant say any more

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercion

I have to agree with you here..

I've watched the interview again.
That's exactly how it comes across as you describe it.

[rusticgal]

He would have been better off staying quiet….

I know this is speculation on my part but I reckon when he was questioning his sexuality he had become close to the young man but not acted upon it…but then he had an opportunity and took it…in the knowledge that he had done so much to help this young man that he could be trusted to keep quiet. People started to talk and he was questioned by Holly and the producers and they both denied it…this I reckon is when Phillip realised he was treading on dangerous ground and the young man was dumped and moved on to LW. However talk was going around the studio and Philip then decided to ‘come out’ on NTV allowing everyone to commend him for his honesty and bravery…then of course with his brothers demise a few weeks ago..it got the old tongues wagging again and we are where we are today…
That’s my take on it…..and how it panned out…pure speculation but it does make some sense..

As for the interview….he seemed so focused on the other man and how he had wronged him and it was all his fault…but he didn’t seem to be very apologetic to his poor wife and daughters…bizarre.

[Glenn.]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

The abuse is in the grooming….’soon’ can be anytime in the near future so let’s wait and see…

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

Just exactly what do you understand grooming to be?

If you think a middle-aged man befriending a teenager aftermeeting him at age ten, getting him a job through which he has de facto and actual power over him, and then bedding him at the earliest (legal) opportunity ... if you think that isn't grooming, I'd be interested to hear what you think is?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Just exactly what do you understand grooming to be?

If you think a middle-aged man befriending a teenager aftermeeting him at age ten, getting him a job through which he has de facto and actual power over him, and then bedding him at the earliest (legal) opportunity ... if you think that isn't grooming, I'd be interested to hear what you think is?

I have to agree here.

I'm not a parent but if this had been a boy or girl of any of my family.
Then things had come to this.
Where online at least, someone nearly 4 decades older NOT connected to the family were in contact with the child as even a teen.

Then got him to work in the same place he was working.
Working closely with him.
Then revelations of a sexual relationship came about.

Which was lied about to employers, friends and closest family, tried to be kept a total secret.

I'd be absolutely livid and furious with the near 60 year old, using that so called professional setting to engage in sex with said young person.
I really cannot believe any parent would not be equally livid and not see it as anything other than unsavoury and wrong.

It's easy to say now he never thought of this person sexually before in all his contact with him.
Then again he'd have to say that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

Glenn are you actually thick or are you just playing thick?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

No,
I said when Matt goes to the Press.


Once he gets Good Cash

He can spell out the grooming


We do not yet have a Date that young Matt
tells his side.

[arista]

Stupid Waste of a Front Page

[arista]

[arista]

Look, if the public Spit on him
he can survive

[joeysteele]

Something I find annoying on this.

He states, it was a grave error, unwise that it happened.
What's the meaning behind the statement it was his fault.

Despite his apologies to the young man of near 4 decades younger than him.

To now be described as unwise and a grave error, really is disrespect to that young man's feelings and own emotions

Then to state it lasted ONLY a few months, never boyfriends and he says only happened 4 or 5 times
While he says at the time he was struggling with his sexuality.

So the young man, probably used and then discarded after he'd got his way.
How callous that sounds.
To me anyhow.

He has chosen to use the media to have said what HE wants to say and how only HE wants it portrayed too.
People are going to make up their own minds on that interview.
As to was he convincing or is there many more follow on questions not asked OR was it a mix of truth and also deceit still.
From a man who has decades of experience of knowing the media inside out and how it works 'AND' how to try to work it too.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Something I find annoying on this.

He states, it was a grave error, unwise that it happened.
What's the meaning behind the statement it was his fault.

Despite his apologies to the young man of near 4 decades younger than him.

To now be described as unwise and a grave error, really is disrespect to that young man's feelings and own emotions

Then to state it lasted ONLY a few months, never boyfriends and he says only happened 4 or 5 times
While he says at the time he was struggling with his sexuality.

So the young man, probably used and then discarded after he'd got his way.
How callous that sounds.
To me anyhow.

He has chosen to use the media to have said what HE wants to say and how only HE wants it portrayed too.
People are going to make up their own minds on that interview.
As to was he convincing or is there many more follow on questions not asked OR was it a mix of truth and also deceit still.
From a man who has decades of experience of knowing the media inside out and how it works 'AND' how to try to work it too.

It’s like a criminal going to court , he knows he is guilty so is pleading guilty to get a shorter sentence and while he is there adding mitigating circumstances to justify his actions in some way

He talks about mm as being totally innocent and his family being totally innocent that screams at me!, predator

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s like a criminal going to court , he knows he is guilty so is pleading guilty to get a shorter sentence and while he is there adding mitigating circumstances to justify his actions in some way

He talks about mm as being totally innocent and his family being totally innocent that screams at me!, predator

Yes I agree sheriff.
That's really strong points.

[bots]

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in

The complication is that the ones labelling Schofield has unpleasant/ odious have all been unpleasant/odious people themselves… Eamon Holmes , Piers Morgan, Katie Hopkins and Dan Wootton etc


The other offshoot ( is that the word) is that people like Wootton has had his profile raised beyond recognition !!

I had barely heard of his name until this week … presumably that is what he was hoping for ??


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