[Swan]

Trump now slight favourite with most bookmakers.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Swan

Trump now slight favourite with most bookmakers.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

law and order

[Liam-]

He still hasn’t condemned the atrocious violence committed by his supporters

[Liam-]

He really is a giant man baby, imagine the tantrum if he loses, god

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He still hasn’t condemned the atrocious violence committed by his supporters

he wont because that's where his votes come from. I think people should prepare themselves for 4 more years of Trump because Biden is going to flounder before election day and that will affect him where the same thing never affects Trump


While Trump supporters are stirring things up, people can't claim peaceful protest when property is being destroyed. If anything is going to lose votes, property damage and lawlessness is going to do it. If the protesters had any intelligence whatsoever they would get off the streets until after the election and give Biden at least a chance to win

[arista]

Biden just said he is looking Forward
to debate with Trump.

He is live on CNN HD.

[Ammi]

...Trump is so utterly one dimensional with regards to females...

Trump told Sarah Sanders to 'take one for the team' after Kim Jong-un wink...


Donald Trump told Sarah Sanders she would have to “go to North Korea and take one for the team”, after Kim Jong-un winked at the then White House press secretary during a summit in Singapore in June 2018.


...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-told...050046306.html

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he wont because that's where his votes come from. I think people should prepare themselves for 4 more years of Trump because Biden is going to flounder before election day and that will affect him where the same thing never affects Trump


While Trump supporters are stirring things up, people can't claim peaceful protest when property is being destroyed. If anything is going to lose votes, property damage and lawlessness is going to do it. If the protesters had any intelligence whatsoever they would get off the streets until after the election and give Biden at least a chance to win

If he gets another term then he is an assassination waiting to happen and one the world will be praying ti happen

[Liam-]

The ‘LAW & ORDER!’ President is now telling people to break the law by voting twice, it’s almost like he doesn’t really care about law and order at all, funny that

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘LAW & ORDER!’ President is now telling people to break the law by voting twice, it’s almost like he doesn’t really care about law and order at all, funny that

I think the fact that most of the people associated with him have been found guilty of committing crimes, often in service of him, should already tell people this "law and order" nonsense, might not be entirely genuine.

[Liam-]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ‘LAW & ORDER!’ President is now telling people to break the law by voting twice, it’s almost like he doesn’t really care about law and order at all, funny that

"appeared to"

its just Cnn trolling you

[Liam-]

No, that’s a company covering their backs, there’s video footage of him doing just that

[LeatherTrumpet]

[The Slim Reaper]

Still waiting to hear your opinions on the subject, LT.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[The Slim Reaper]

Why anyone would want to post in a section that requires opinions, and offer absolutely no opinion on anything is beyond me.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Trump now slight favourite with most bookmakers.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

Bookies odds are altered depending on bets received, and the trump voter is more likely to bet on this than a coastal, librul elite chai latte drinker.

He's behind 8-10 pts in the polls which is more telling, although not definitive as the lead was around the same at this stage vs Hilary.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Bookies odds are altered depending on bets received, and the trump voter is more likely to bet on this than a coastal, librul elite chai latte drinker.

He's behind 8-10 pts in the polls which is more telling, although not definitive as the lead was around the same at this stage vs Hilary.

I think the fact the gap in the polls is narrowing is also ammo for the bookies to reduce the odds. But yeah bets received play a huge part, the biggest part in how they work out the odds.

Imo Biden needs to start appealing to the on the fence voter, the centralised voter. Atm im not sure he his, i think the problem is the election is becoming more and more of a **** show, people are disheartened and just wont bother voting. If Biden can win over a decent amount of the undecided/unlikely voter then he'll win. The way it's going now i think Trump just nicks it.

Im gonna use an analogy only a wrestling fan will understand, so forgive me lol. I see Trump atm as the Heel, he's an 'up front C-word' and some people like that. However with good opposition most will cheer against him. Biden is the Babyface people don't know how to take atm, he's not wonderfully charismatic but they want to like and believe in him. He's having ok matches, but not really getting over on the whole, but one really good 'match' and im certain he'll win them over. Again, apologies

Basically, it's in his hands and if he steps up his game from now and until election nigh, it'll be his to lose.

[Liam-]

Normal

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

I think the fact the gap in the polls is narrowing is also ammo for the bookies to reduce the odds. But yeah bets received play a huge part, the biggest part in how they work out the odds.

Imo Biden needs to start appealing to the on the fence voter, the centralised voter. Atm im not sure he his, i think the problem is the election is becoming more and more of a **** show, people are disheartened and just wont bother voting. If Biden can win over a decent amount of the undecided/unlikely voter then he'll win. The way it's going now i think Trump just nicks it.

Im gonna use an analogy only a wrestling fan will understand, so forgive me lol. I see Trump atm as the Heel, he's an 'up front C-word' and some people like that. However with good opposition most will cheer against him. Biden is the Babyface people don't know how to take atm, he's not wonderfully charismatic but they want to like and believe in him. He's having ok matches, but not really getting over on the whole, but one really good 'match' and im certain he'll win them over. Again, apologies

Basically, it's in his hands and if he steps up his game from now and until election nigh, it'll be his to lose.

As someone who knows nothing about, and has even less interest in wrestling, I'll just acknowledge that you wrote some stuff.

I personally don't really like Biden because he's basically the equivalent of a conservative during the 80's. Conservatism has lost it's morality and revels in cruelty rather than solutions these days, which is why he's being labelled as a socialist. as a socialist myself, let me tell you he isn't.

Conservatives and independents have known Joe Biden for decades and he was one of the most well liked dems, so I think people are confusing that they only just know him, with what Americans feel.

I don't think there are that many on the fence voters in the US this election. Whether you love or loathe trump, there isn't really anyone that won't have a strong opinion on him.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't think there are that many on the fence voters in the US this election. Whether you love or loathe trump, there isn't really anyone that won't have a strong opinion on him.

I think this time round there are many would be voters who just can't bring themselves to get behind either candidate and simply wont vote.

And yeah i agree Trump is just that, as immature and outrageous as he can be he does come across as a 'leader' in many ways (of course people who hate him will disagree with that, but he's a polarising figure, it can't be denied). Biden doesn't. Biden needs to be passionate, logical and together in the debates, he needs to come across more as a leader. If he does, he'll win. As it stands, i think Trump wins.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

I think this time round there are many would be voters who just can't bring themselves to get behind either candidate and simply wont vote.

And yeah i agree Trump is just that, as immature and outrageous as he can be he does come across as a 'leader' in many ways (of course people who hate him will disagree with that, but he's a polarising figure, it can't be denied). Biden doesn't. Biden needs to be passionate, logical and together in the debates, he needs to come across more as a leader. If he does, he'll win. As it stands, i think Trump wins.

You couldn't be further from the truth. He does the opposite of leading - blaming. He's good at PR though, and as if to prove it, everything you've just mentioned there isn't really set in reality, and is just the caricature of the president his team wants people to believe.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You couldn't be further from the truth. He does the opposite of leading - blaming. He's good at PR though, and as if to prove it, everything you've just mentioned there isn't really set in reality, and is just the caricature of the president his team wants people to believe.

Well our opinions are different, that's life. I believe Trump does stand out, he turns heads, rightly or wrongly.

Biden doesn't, and that's his problem.