[Vanessa]

Dan is overscored every week.
Are they trying to tell me that Dan was better thanAJ? Nonsense!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Dan is overscored every week.
Are they trying to tell me that Dan was better thanAJ? Nonsense!

yet Cynthia gave AJ a standing ovation and not Dan, but her scores said otherwise

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Agree...Johannes did most of the dancing as well

AJ was fab

Absolutely, how Cynthia can possibly justify giving AJ an 8 while giving Dan a 9 is actually beyond me, she’s been consistently underscored the entire series

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

wrong, John did lead the whole time and he did do a superb job at that


they said so on ITT this week

I think in fairness it was clear that John did the best dance this week.

It doesn't mean people have to change favourites, but he just clearly was ahead of the class this week.

I agree with you Nicky, because personally who are these people saying was better this week? AJ was the second best imo, but there were more errors in her dance than John's, and the other contestants were miles behind this week.

I'd get the complaints more if John was performing at a similar level to the others, but to me personally it's coming across as certain fans are seeing John as a threat to their favourite and are refusing to give him any credit because for some reason there's only two contestants that can be top of the leaderboard it seems, even though one of them ironically scores reasonably high every week even if she's performed badly, so that's ironic.

To make it more balanced though, John obviously has had plenty of weeks where he hasn't been the best imo, and AJ has shown herself to be the most versatile out of the top six.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It was a really powerful routine and John in the main led in it.
It was one of the very best Argentine Tango routines I've seen on Strictly.

They've done 3 truly in my view spectacular routines over the weeks.
This one, their Charleston and what remains for me, the best thing I've seen on Strictly ever.
Their Pirates Paso Doble.

I still think and hope it will be John, along with AJ and Rose in the final.

They are the 3 as near perfect pairings there could be in this series.
However, 2 pairings will only be there to make up the final.
As I firmly believe the public, who are the ONLY ones who decides who wins.
They have already decided weeks ago, their winner is going to be Rose this series.

I agree with you, exciting and polished are the words for John and Johannes routine and performance last night.
Totally worthy of the top place on the inconsistent judges leaderboard.

I agree with you for the most part anyway Joey.

I also agree with you on John's three best dances this series.

And fair enough if Rose does win, but it is bizarre to me personally that people will pull Dan up on not being the best dancer, yet they'll vote for someone to win when there are three dancers in the competition that are technically better than her.

I mean I can't talk too much on this issue because I've had quite a few Strictly favourites that aren't technically the best dancer in their series, but I'm not also attacking Dan fans for voting for Dan either.

But I do agree with you Joey that Rose will win because so many people are smitten with her and that's what you've always got to lookout for.

[Nicky91]

Tilly has the american smooth next week

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Tilly has the american smooth next week

Where is the spoiler. Now I know she's through to next week

[Vanessa]

It's not all about the technical ability. You also need for the public to relate to you.
For me she's the complete package.

[Vanessa]

Also, I think Rose is a terrific dancer.
Let's not forget that she's deaf. What she's achieving is nothing short of remarkable.

[joeysteele]

That was great in my view, from ,'Years and Years'.
Really rate Ollie.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's not all about the technical ability. You also need for the public to relate to you.
For me she's the complete package.

I get that argument, and personally I don't just champion dancers on based on technical ability alone either.

I just personally find it weird though how most of the fandom seem to be fine with people supporting Rose who isn't technically the best dancer of her year, but apparently it's wrong for people to support Dan, like why is it wrong to support Dan but not anyone else in the competition that's not AJ & John?

I'm not attacking you btw Vanessa as you're not the worst for doing this kinda argument, but I've seen a lot of people go around attacking Dan this series for being voted through because it's "meant to be a dancing competition" but then some (not all) of these same people have been supporting people like Adam, Sara or Tom, plus countless other contestants that weren't or aren't technically the greatest dancers in the competition because these people would be supporting either AJ or John going by that argument.

[Kate!]

I'm appalled that Rhys stayed over Tilly and Nikita.

[joeysteele]

Whatever it is, the public don't care for Rhys.

This is to me why the dance off is ridiculous.
Rhys was far higher on the leaderboard than Tilly.
Tilly was bottom.

The judges already had voted that Rhys was far superior in their view to Tilly in the show.

What on earth is the point of those pairings then having to do that same wretched dance that put them into the bottom 2.
To then have the judges vote twice on the SAME dance they already have done a short time before.

Rhys was much higher on the board than Tilly so it was clear, no matter how many times he's been in the bottom 2 now.
That he would be saved again.

Either do a different dance in the dance off or just decide it on the public vote.
Strip the judges of this ridiculous power they have.

The judges have had Dan in the bottom 3 most weeks.
Dan however has public support to get him through.

I still think the 3 pairings who have the most support are Rose firstly.
Then perhaps with the public a toss up between AJ and John.
However I'd say they are the 3 with the biggest public support.

It's all immaterial however in my view now, this series is much more than likely to be won by Rose.

I hear a lot from my own friends, who keep saying 'who is voting for Dan'.
It doesn't matter who is, he has fairly strong support clearly from the public.
So he clearly entertains those who vote for him.
So good luck to him from me.

If it's a Rhys v Dan dance off next week.
It will be interesting to see if they save Rhys over Dan then.

Really though for me, the dance off in the hands of the judges is what ruins Strictly.
They apply their own bias mostly, in my view.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that argument, and personally I don't just champion dancers on based on technical ability alone either.

I just personally find it weird though how most of the fandom seem to be fine with people supporting Rose who isn't technically the best dancer of her year, but apparently it's wrong for people to support Dan, like why is it wrong to support Dan but not anyone else in the competition that's not AJ & John?

I'm not attacking you btw Vanessa as you're not the worst for doing this kinda argument, but I've seen a lot of people go around attacking Dan this series for being voted through because it's "meant to be a dancing competition" but then some (not all) of these same people have been supporting people like Adam, Sara or Tom, plus countless other contestants that weren't or aren't technically the greatest dancers in the competition because these people would be supporting either AJ or John going by that argument.

For me Rose is a great dancer. But Dan dancing leaves me cold.
But everyone can support who they like.

[Strictly Jake]

Gutted to lose Tilly!

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Gutted to lose Tilly!

Same. Adored her. She put her heart and soul into every weeks performance. Rhys was wooden.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Same. Adored her. She put her heart and soul into every weeks performance. Rhys was wooden.

She did well to get this far.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She did well to get this far.

Only AJ and Rose are better than her out of those remaining .

[Vanessa]

The fact that they're overscoring Dan every week suggest that he's not as popular as the others.
Except for Rhys.

[Kate!]

My ideal finishing order of the remaining 5

5th John
4th Rhys
3rd Dan
2nd AJ
Winner Rose

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kate!

My ideal finishing order of the remaining 5

5th John
4th Rhys
3rd Dan
2nd AJ
Winner Rose

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.

Me too Ness.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.

I'm standing by my now long held view that the three with the most public support are A J, John and Rose.

With Rose likely miles ahead of the pack.
I'd guess too no matter what is stated otherwise, the judges have an idea of that too.

If a spoiler can be unearthed to reveal the results beforehand.
I'm sure knowledge of the public voting can be discreetly made known to selected others.

Rhys clearly has little public support for the times he's been in the bottom 2.

For me really any from Rose, AJ or John would be the best winners of this series.
I'm pretty sure it will be Rose.
With AJ and John either in 2nd or 3rd.

However you never know.

I just wish from now, the quarter finals, and semi finals were only decided like the final itself will be, on solely how the public vote.
The judges voting void.

For me, if it is a runaway win for Rose.
As long as I get to see the John and Johannes Paso Doble,( the dance of the series for me in fact),again in the final will please me greatly.

[Cherie]

Gutted for Tllly..if it’s Rhys and AJ next week and they save him ....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Whatever it is, the public don't care for Rhys.

This is to me why the dance off is ridiculous.
Rhys was far higher on the leaderboard than Tilly.
Tilly was bottom.

The judges already had voted that Rhys was far superior in their view to Tilly in the show.

What on earth is the point of those pairings then having to do that same wretched dance that put them into the bottom 2.
To then have the judges vote twice on the SAME dance they already have done a short time before.

Rhys was much higher on the board than Tilly so it was clear, no matter how many times he's been in the bottom 2 now.
That he would be saved again.

Either do a different dance in the dance off or just decide it on the public vote.
Strip the judges of this ridiculous power they have.

The judges have had Dan in the bottom 3 most weeks.
Dan however has public support to get him through.

I still think the 3 pairings who have the most support are Rose firstly.
Then perhaps with the public a toss up between AJ and John.
However I'd say they are the 3 with the biggest public support.

It's all immaterial however in my view now, this series is much more than likely to be won by Rose.

I hear a lot from my own friends, who keep saying 'who is voting for Dan'.
It doesn't matter who is, he has fairly strong support clearly from the public.
So he clearly entertains those who vote for him.
So good luck to him from me.

If it's a Rhys v Dan dance off next week.
It will be interesting to see if they save Rhys over Dan then.

Really though for me, the dance off in the hands of the judges is what ruins Strictly.
They apply their own bias mostly, in my view.

I agree with your assessments on the contestants.

Tbh in terms of the competition, Rhys & Tilly unfortunately for them have never been competitive in the vote, doing things like forcing them to the top 5/6 is what tends to harm these Shows ratings, I mean who remembers some of TXF's silly decisions?

The public want to watch people that they like in the competition, keeping two people that the public aren't fond of is a dangerous thing to do to your ratings potentially for next series.

And I agree with you that the dance off should be different performances to the night before.