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Also, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some high profile resignations from EBU in the coming weeks after this trainwreck
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I personally don't like the trend of countries sending established acts and celebrities, in my view that was never really the point! I feel the same way about loreen last year - I liked the song and on the face of it it was the winning entry, but having previous winners compete again isnt interesting at all .

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I personally don't like the trend of countries sending established acts and celebrities, in my view that was never really the point! I feel the same way about loreen last year - I liked the song and on the face of it it was the winning entry, but having previous winners compete again isnt interesting at all .
I normally agree with this completely, because it does make for pretty boring results when the winner is obvious right from the off, but thank god Loreen was there last year so that other idiot didn’t win
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I personally don't like the trend of countries sending established acts and celebrities, in my view that was never really the point! I feel the same way about loreen last year - I liked the song and on the face of it it was the winning entry, but having previous winners compete again isnt interesting at all .
The UK was sending well known names 40/50 years ago as was other countries
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The UK was sending well known names 40/50 years ago as was other countries
Yeeeah but the best of Eurovision (in my opinionion) is when relative unknowns are discovered. Like I think locally-known acts are OK too but if they already have Europe-wide fame it seems a bit outside what the show in the modern era has been about.
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I personally don't like the trend of countries sending established acts and celebrities, in my view that was never really the point! I feel the same way about loreen last year - I liked the song and on the face of it it was the winning entry, but having previous winners compete again isnt interesting at all .
it was meant to be a way of discovering new talent across europe, then the uk decided they wanted to win it so sent along Cliff Richard, Lulu and Sandi Shaw, to name 3 well established artists at the time. So i don't blame other countries for sending along top talent now
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it was meant to be a way of discovering new talent across europe, then the uk decided they wanted to win it so sent along Cliff Richard, Lulu and Sandi Shaw, to name 3 well established artists at the time. So i don't blame other countries for sending along top talent now
Tbf Sweden sent Abba who were well known in Sweden at the time
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[Britain's Olly Alexander, whose high-octane performance
of Dizzy was marred by sound issues,
scored only 46 from the juries and 'nul points'
from the public.]

Typical
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[Britain's Olly Alexander, whose high-octane performance
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Typical
Sound issues is a crap excuse, it was a boring low-energy song and no amount of dry humping was going to fix that.
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Sound issues is a crap excuse, it was a boring low-energy song and no amount of dry humping was going to fix that.

Dizzy - low energy !?

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[Britain's Olly Alexander, whose high-octane performance
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scored only 46 from the juries and 'nul points'
from the public.]

Typical
Nearly typical.
We are usually sniffing around the bottom 3 only and sometimes not getting any points at all.

This was a vast improvement on last year even when it was held in the UK.

Politics does play a part in the voting though.
It seems contributing to our poor results, that the UKs image isn't improving around the World.

I haven't a clue what will help the UK at Eurovision.
At least we haven't the cost of staging it next year plus all the unrest of probably more demonstrations.
Especially if nothing is near sorted in the Israel/Gaza conflict.
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Nearly typical.
We are usually sniffing around the bottom 3 only and sometimes not getting any points at all.

This was a vast improvement on last year even when it was held in the UK.

Politics does play a part in the voting though.
It seems contributing to our poor results, that the UKs image isn't improving around the World.

I haven't a clue what will help the UK at Eurovision.
At least we haven't the cost of staging it next year plus all the unrest of probably more demonstrations.
Especially if nothing is near sorted in the Israel/Gaza conflict.

[Croatia came second with the raucous party
anthem Rim Tim Tagi Dim,
while the UK's Olly Alexander was consigned
to 18th place, out of 25.
The Years and Years singer received
the dreaded "nul points" from the public,
but was saved from last place by
the jury vote. They awarded his song,
Dizzy, 46 points]
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[Croatia came second with the raucous party
anthem Rim Tim Tagi Dim,
while the UK's Olly Alexander was consigned
to 18th place, out of 25.
The Years and Years singer received
the dreaded "nul points" from the public,
but was saved from last place by
the jury vote. They awarded his song,
Dizzy, 46 points]

That's a fair improvement on being consigned to 23rd to 25th.
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Israel finished above the Irish witch.
The UK’s 12 points from the public vote went to Israel.

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The UK’s 12 points from the public vote went to Israel.


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phew, no israeli win


and congrats Switzerland, even though i was for Croatia (gave RTTD my vote last night)

watched most of the performances last night with my mom, only missed the beginning kinda, was first watching doctor who new season episodes on disney
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Until any artiste can do more to get the public votes.
The UK will no matter who it puts in.
Never do well.

This was a good improvement on last year.and many years positions.

On the jury votes the UK was in the top half.
However the public vote just didn't as usual give anything to the UK.
One country only got 1 vote and how Austria' got only 5 votes tom the public is mystifying.

It may help if like other Nations, instead of running the UK and the artiste/s efforts down.
Britons got behind their entry like other Nations.

What happened in Sam Ryder's year I haven't a clue.
His was one song I didn't care for.
Although would have loved him to win.

Most juries gave the UK no votes, then 3 others 6 and 8.
Belgium, Iceland and Sweden.

The rest of western Europe, and Eastern Europe, nothing.

I'm always left wondering about the voting on Eurovision.
However for me.
Avoiding the last 3 and avoid having no points at all is about all the UK can hope for.

I really doubt we'd win or do really well
I just think the UKs image worldwide means across the World, we're overlooked more than not.

Staging may have been a factor too.
France for instance had a microphone that was all and he came 3 rd.

Staging however cannot be blamed for our dismal showing last year.
Second last being one of our more usual positions.
Unless a group, maybe toosny others onstage doesn't help.
The top 3 had limited staging and no extras onstage really.
It's best treated as like a festival performance for most Nations.
Not a serious competition.

I still say well done Olly, he deserved better but then so did many others too who got very few votes too.
Eurovision is a really cranky and crazy event
However great fun too.
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Until any artiste can do more to get the public votes.
The UK will no matter who it puts in.
Never do well.

This was a good improvement on last year.and many years positions.

On the jury votes the UK was in the top half.
However the public vote just didn't as usual give anything to the UK.
One country only got 1 vote and how Austria' got only 5 votes tom the public is mystifying.

It may help if like other Nations, instead of running the UK and the artiste/s efforts down.
Britons got behind their entry like other Nations.

What happened in Sam Ryder's year I haven't a clue.
His was one song I didn't care for.
Although would have loved him to win.

Most juries gave the UK no votes, then 3 others 6 and 8.
Belgium, Iceland and Sweden.

The rest of western Europe, and Eastern Europe, nothing.

I'm always left wondering about the voting on Eurovision.
However for me.
Avoiding the last 3 and avoid having no points at all is about all the UK can hope for.

I really doubt we'd win or do really well
I just think the UKs image worldwide means across the World, we're overlooked more than not.

Staging may have been a factor too.
France for instance had a microphone that was all and he came 3 rd.

Staging however cannot be blamed for our dismal showing last year.
Second last being one of our more usual positions.
Unless a group, maybe toosny others onstage doesn't help.
The top 3 had limited staging and no extras onstage really.
It's best treated as like a festival performance for most Nations.
Not a serious competition.

I still say well done Olly, he deserved better but then so did many others too who got very few votes too.
Eurovision is a really cranky and crazy event
However great fun too.
Staging was tbe reason Norway came last. It was really weird.
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Norway undeservingly last place, too alternate for eurovision maybe, but i am a fan


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Germany a 12th place against all odds decent jury result and surprising 18 points from the public, which is more than usually from the televoters


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Germany a 12th place against all odds decent jury result and surprising 18 points from the public, which is more than usually from the televoters


20th for Estonia i can live with, decent, also nice they said ''dank je wel'' after their performance, for their support to Joost now they can focus on stanning Borussia Dortmund in the final of the CL
Norway song was great, but that staging was really bizarre.
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