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Old 24-07-2019, 10:07 PM #776
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I agree.
This doesn't appear a Cabinet that will unite the Conservative party never mind the voters.

One saving grace, he hasn't so far included the awful Esther McVey.

I think it's a mistake he hasn't secured Hunt in the Cabinet.
There's now a strong group of inwardly dissatisfied ex Cabinet Ministers on his backbenches.

If he loses Brecon and the MP now charged with sexual offences.
He may regret making this opportunity he has to just run a more extreme hard-line ship.
Very true.
So far my biggest objection is Patel
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the tories will give him the benefit of the doubt while a deal is on the table. The moment he goes down a no deal path, it will be over.
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the tories will give him the benefit of the doubt while a deal is on the table. The moment he goes down a no deal path, it will be over.
I know you don't care for Rory Stewart bitontheslide, however he's just been on Peston.

He said Johnson has put in his Cabinet, many of those who rebelled and voted against Theresa May.
Then he and they will now be demanding loyalty to Johnson and the Cabinet, on a no deal scenario.

It doesn't look good for Conservative unity.
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Riff raff Mogg has a job the creepy bast ... the rocky horror show is complete :/
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[Huge congratulations to Jacob ReesMogg
who has been appointed Leader of the Commons and will attend Cabinet. Boris means business - let's hope he can deliver!]
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With Mogg, Gavin Williamson and Johnson all in power now, it won’t be long before we see them trying to roll back lgbt rights, welcome back to the dark ages folks
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With Mogg, Gavin Williamson and Johnson all in power now, it won’t be long before we see them trying to roll back lgbt rights, welcome back to the dark ages folks
You're a glass half empty kind of guy, aren't you Liam.
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Jo Johnson Business minister

Kwasi Kwarteng Business Minister

Grant Shapps is the new transport secretary

Esther McVey appointed housing minister - and will attend cabinet

James Cleverly made Conservative Party chair and minister without portfolio

Rishi Sunak made chief secretary to the Treasury

Julian Smith Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

Alister Jack appointed Scottish secretary

Alok Sharma to take over as international development secretary

Robert Jenrick Housing Secretary

Oliver Dowden Cabinet Office Minister

Amber Rudd remains work and pensions secretary

Alun Cairns remains Welsh secretary

Baroness Evans keeps job as Leader of the House of Lords

Geoffrey Cox remains as attorney general

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You're a glass half empty kind of guy, aren't you Liam.
When the newly ‘elected’ PM appoints a bunch of homophobes from the 1820’s to his cabinet, yes I am, it doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence that my kind are going to be treated well for however long this ****show lasts.
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Last day of Parliament Tomorrow

Then its Recess until Tuesday Sept 3rd.

The New PM Boris Johnson Is Not taking a Holiday , though/

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Esther McVey given a job too.

This is likely to the Country, Parliament as a whole and even within a good number of the Conservative parliamentary party too.
To be seen as only the most divisive possible.

All he has done is bring together some of the most hard liners as to views on brexit.

That will probably alienate the more open of brexit voters and all who voted remain.

It really is sickening to see the government surviving too thanks to the still mostly sectarian bigoted DUP.

Whatever his words on wanting to govern for the whole of the UK.
His Cabinet says the direct opposite.

With extreme appointments near across the board.

This is an awful Cabinet overall.
Way too extreme and hard line.
Priti Patel as Home secretary, really just about the last person who should be so.

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With Mogg, Gavin Williamson and Johnson all in power now, it won’t be long before we see them trying to roll back lgbt rights, welcome back to the dark ages folks
He has delivered a strong message of extremes and intolerance in these Cabinet appointments for sure Liam.

Thankfully his majority will likely be eroded soon.
Of course there's still the dinosaur DUP lining up as ever to help him.

I think your concerns will be shared by millions across the Country.
With some of the most archaic held views now around the Cabinet table.
Courtesy of Johnson.
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Well of course he will put together the people who want to leave the EU,surely that makes sense ,when the country has voted for it ,lets not forget that ,it would be madness to keep those who oppose it all the time ,at that rate we wont get anywhere.
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Jacob got, leader of The House of Commons
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As was pointed out on Peston last night.
Particularly Rory Stewart.
Who I think actually will get strong support from Conservative MPs on the backbenches against his hard line brexit stance.

A lot of the people now in his Cabinet stopped the leaving of the EU, voting against May's agreement.

You cannot claim to be going to govern for the whole Nation.
Then select a near fully one sided Cabinet on just one issue.

The views of some of the people He's judged to be worthy of being in Cabinet, hold some of the most archaic and divisive views possible.

His Cabinet represents almost wholly only one side of even just the brexit debate.
That will never likely unite but rather fuel the divisions existing even more.

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Well of course he will put together the people who want to leave the EU,surely that makes sense ,when the country has voted for it ,lets not forget that ,it would be madness to keep those who oppose it all the time ,at that rate we wont get anywhere.
i have no problem with them being brexit supporting, but these folks are all no deal fanatics. That's an issue to me and to many in the country and parliament. If they get a deal agreed and through parliament, good stuff, but logic says we are heading straight for no deal, and that is divisive and the government will be brought down if that is the route they take. I blame labour and many conservatives for us being in this position, because they could have voted for May's deal and the problem would already have been solved, but they have all been too busy playing politics
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who has been appointed Leader of the Commons and will attend Cabinet. Boris means business - let's hope he can deliver!]
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You're a glass half empty kind of guy, aren't you Liam.
Boris yesterday outed “the doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters”

Boris speaks of possibility and if you are ever to make progress, to go forward and achieve success in life you need to be optimistic. Ronald Reagan had that in spades and was roundly attacked by the same type of people having a go today on twitter and the rest yet he transformed the US economy...
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i have no problem with them being brexit supporting, but these folks are all no deal fanatics. That's an issue to me and to many in the country and parliament. If they get a deal agreed and through parliament, good stuff, but logic says we are heading straight for no deal, and that is divisive and the government will be brought down if that is the route they take. I blame labour and many conservatives for us being in this position, because they could have voted for May's deal and the problem would already have been solved, but they have all been too busy playing politics


The Labour party is the'opposition', the title says it all.
However had she agreed to even just a permanent customs union .
More Labour MPs would have supported.

She was defeated because 30+ of her own party voted against her agreement.
A lot of whom who are now unbelievably Cabinet Ministers.

LibDems, SNP, Plaid Cynru, the Green MP, the DUP, and most of the then Independent group voted against her agreement too.
Not just Labour.

She should have compromised more.
Rather than just try to woo her own hardliners who in my view, not only wanted the hardest brexit possible but wanted her gone too.

Oppositions aren't there to save governments, oppositions are there to hopefully replace them.
A customs union of a permanent nature would have satisfied most who voted for her agreement, would have been welcomed by the EU.
Labour could and should have supported that.
Had she gone that route rather than hoping her own hardliners may relent in time.
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He sacked a popular Scottish secretary despite requests by Davidson to keep him.

Nicola asked him for the second independence referendum

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