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If only, Arista. If only we had a leader who gave a toss about the people who live here, pay their tax and try to live a law-abiding life.
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Humans are vile to each other. Always have been. How we've got this far without wiping each other out is a ****ing mystery.
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This is the clip that was so “disrespectful”

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Yeah that's all I could see as well. I couldn't imagine he'd be that idiotic to say live on TV that he thought Charlie Kirk deserved to die and he was glad about it..........even if he actually thinks that (which I doubt he does tbf)
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The Prime Minster of Israel pays tribute to Charlie

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Charlie Kirk was a great man. He deserves honor - not lies.

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Well that's going to throw fuel on the flames...
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Oh no, she’ll be very selective. She only said it to be antagonising. Bless.
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It's either one of two things:

1. He believed it, because he preached the Bible

2. He didn't believe it, because he picked and chose what to believe in the Bible, which calls into the question why he used selective outrage on certain topics/only believed certain Biblical teachings while ignoring others, which calls into question just how much of his "I believe this because of my religion" is true and how much of it was a shield for just being bigoted.

I'll let his fans decide which one is worse.
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1. He believed it, because he preached the Bible

2. He didn't believe it, because he picked and chose what to believe in the Bible, which calls into the question why he used selective outrage on certain topics/only believed certain Biblical teachings while ignoring others, which calls into question just how much of his "I believe this because of my religion" is true and how much of it was a shield for just being bigoted.

I'll let his fans decide which one is worse.
I'd say this one (not a fan of his fyi)

ETA. I would also add, i think he said stuff to get fame and money and a following
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ETA. I would also add, i think he said stuff to get fame and money and a following



….Charlie Kirk, you mean…?…
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….Charlie Kirk, you mean…?…
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…I honestly had no knowledge of Charlie Kirk at all before he was murdered…(…I did have a vague knowledge of Turning Point as an organisation…)…and there is so much that he’s quoted as saying that completely contrasts my own thoughts/beliefs …and I do believe, as you say Niamh…that ‘activism’ on both and all sides is motivated by income as well…I’ve watched some of Charlie Kirk’s debates since his death just to get an idea of who he was and why so controversial…and I’m still kind of mulling through those but one thing that does strike me as a huge positive about him…is while he was debating and talking with people of so many different views and lifestyles to his own…?…he was relating to them and with them with a level of ‘human understanding’ that maybe he was also learning to be more tolerant…? He took time to talk to people, to debate with them…to auestion them and to be questioned himself and to show a level of real human interest….


….anyways, I think in a way that he maybe showed more human interest than has been shown since his death by many on all sides and all angles because I do feel that so many agendas have come into play or out to play since his murder…it’s sad really also and distasteful because he was more than a political type identity and figure…people are so much more layered than that and people who disagreed vehemently with so much that was his mindset, still listened to him and told ‘their story’ to him so they must have attached to some positive lights in him also…I mean, positive even in their challenging eyes and challenging minds…
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I'll let his fans decide which one is worse.
I've seen Kirk talk about this at Cambridge and his argument is that there is the ritual law, the ceremonial law and the moral law and Christians are only bound to the moral law which Christ affirms in the New Testament, not the other two which are prevalent in the Old Testament because Christ brought a new covenant between God and mankind
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I've seen Kirk talk about this at Cambridge and his argument is that there is the ritual law, the ceremonial law and the moral law and Christians are only bound to the moral law which Christ affirms in the New Testament, not the other two which are prevalent in the Old Testament because Christ brought a new covenant between God and mankind
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Oh yes the old "god didn't mean the stuff in his first books" get out clause
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He just tied up the loose ends and plot twists in season one with season two
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Don't ever look into what the Koran says and judge all Muslims like you're judging all Christians. Jews and gays have something in common: Islam would rather we were all dead.
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I am not judging all Christians, I'm judging one. As I have said before, I condemn all religions, but I give all religious the benefit of the doubt until they give me reason to do otherwise.

Unfortunately Charlie Kirk gave me many reasons over and over again.

My default stand is: I have issues with religion, not the religious.
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FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr says Kimmel and Colbert are now facing the consequences of choosing to cater to a narrow, partisan audience.

“You can do that, you can start a podcast, you can go on YouTube…but if you’re going to have a license from the FCC, we expect you to broadly serve the public interest.”

The era of activist late-night TV is collapsing.

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Seconds before he was shot he was pushing a false narrative that trans shooters were a bigger problem than they were. I don’t think he was learning at all.

He was a hateful man.
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