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I just wrote this is another thread about ratings, and although this ratings thread gets nowhere near the same amount of negative nancies as others, I thought it would be important to show the regular viewers to this thread why Big Brother ratings are fine, as there are still many who believe it's ratings are dire and the show will be cancelled.. which of course it is highly unlikely, though depending on Viacom's decisions in the near future.


'BB ratings are fine!!

The officials are pretty much level with the first officials of last series, with a difference of only around 80,000. Remember, we're still in week 2 and this is possibly the most competitive season of TV with the world cup.. yesterday the show attracted 1.3 million, if you include +1, +24, HD, Live Streaming on the app and third party sites, Demand 5, Lunchtime repeats and 5* repeats, it's pretty much certain that figure will grow several hundred thousand...

It's very pessimistic to assume BB will finish because of a week of low ratings, what do you expect, I'm certain the producers are aware of this, otherwise they'd wait a week or two to air it until smaller matches in the World Cup begin. Channel 5 put BB in direct competition otherwise the channel would quite literally be obliterated, and even so.. the episodes are attracting near enough the same numbers as they would without the World Cup.. it's still making a good profit for the channel and it's still well above the average percentage share, in most cases it's almost DOUBLE!

Face it, BB doesn't aquire the ratings it used to of 3 or 4 million, granted it struggles to hit 1.5 nowadays, but what everybody seems to forget is the target audience. It's targeted at YOUTH. And in advertisement, YOUTH targets are the most important as they are the most who are more likely to spend disposable income on their products. Therefore it works out much better than many other channels, such as ITV and Channel 4, whose target market at the 9-10pm slot is typically somewhat older than 15-30s age range.

It's the channel's flagship programming and each year the ratings improve. Civillian BB continues to grow at a rate of near 100,000 new viewers each series, meanwhile CBB is attracting near 200,000 (minus the summer series, which due to low ratings often dip more than the winter editions, but are still vastly improving in ratings)

BB is a staple of Channel 5, British TV and British culture and there will always be a targetable market to make money. If ratings are poor, the producers will find ways around it, such as in this series, simple changes such as removing the news section and sweaty Box on BOTS and making the house design more simple, using commerical items, not one off, designer products.

BB is hear to stay, ratings yes are low at the moment but it still regularly hits Channel 5's most watched shows of the week, typically 6 out of 7 days.. furthermore, it's almost always rated at 3rd out of the main 5 channels, something which Channel 5 almost certainly never did before it acquired the show.


BB14 OVERNIGHTS / FIRST WEEK

2.1m, 2.1m, 1.3m, 1.5m, 1.5m, 1.4m, 1.3m, 1.3m, 1.8m (1.6 AVERAGE)

BB15 OVERNIGHTS / FIRST WEEK

2.1m, 1.6m, 1.0m, 1.5m, 1.2m, 1.3m, 1.2m, 1.0m, 1.0m (1.3 AVERAGE)


(Just to point out.. the Second week of BB14 had a reduction in ratings, meanwhile the current series, BB15 has had an increase in ratings in its second week)

BB14 OVERNIGHTS / SECOND WEEK AVERAGE - 1.3M
BB15 OVERNIGHTS / SECOND WEEK AVERAGE - 1.2M


CURRENT OFFICIAL - BB15 is only 80,000 viewers down on BB14 in terms of viewers (in it's first week), thus suggesting that although less are watching, far more are catching up in other areas besides the main broadcast show, this is incredibly good news as it further suggests this year's audience is slightly larger, despite the decrease in viewers as more are watching in other areas.

(Lets also bare in mind that BB12 and BB13 often struggled to even hit 1.2m-1.4m)

(Lets also bare in mind, ratings change so randomly, it's hardly a problem, remember the Daley Hazel episode, overnight data showed 1.7 million watched overnight, the highest of any highlights show on C5, all down to good advertisement and word of mouth)

Sorry this is so long to read, but I got awfully fed up of the bad news surrounding ratings. It's true, but not to the extent of cancellation, now if anybody can be bothered to read this MASSIVE post, I acknowledge you dearly!


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I just wrote this is another thread about ratings, and although this ratings thread gets nowhere near the same amount of negative nancies as others, I thought it would be important to show the regular viewers to this thread why Big Brother ratings are fine, as there are still many who believe it's ratings are dire and the show will be cancelled.. which of course it is highly unlikely, though depending on Viacom's decisions in the near future.


'BB ratings are fine!!

The officials are pretty much level with the first officials of last series, with a difference of only around 80,000. Remember, we're still in week 2 and this is possibly the most competitive season of TV with the world cup.. yesterday the show attracted 1.3 million, if you include +1, +24, HD, Live Streaming on the app and third party sites, Demand 5, Lunchtime repeats and 5* repeats, it's pretty much certain that figure will grow several hundred thousand...

It's very pessimistic to assume BB will finish because of a week of low ratings, what do you expect, I'm certain the producers are aware of this, otherwise they'd wait a week or two to air it until smaller matches in the World Cup begin. Channel 5 put BB in direct competition otherwise the channel would quite literally be obliterated, and even so.. the episodes are attracting near enough the same numbers as they would without the World Cup.. it's still making a good profit for the channel and it's still well above the average percentage share, in most cases it's almost DOUBLE!

Face it, BB doesn't aquire the ratings it used to of 3 or 4 million, granted it struggles to hit 1.5 nowadays, but what everybody seems to forget is the target audience. It's targeted at YOUTH. And in advertisement, YOUTH targets are the most important as they are the most who are more likely to spend disposable income on their products. Therefore it works out much better than many other channels, such as ITV and Channel 4, whose target market at the 9-10pm slot is typically somewhat older than 15-30s age range.

It's the channel's flagship programming and each year the ratings improve. Civillian BB continues to grow at a rate of near 100,000 new viewers each series, meanwhile CBB is attracting near 200,000 (minus the summer series, which due to low ratings often dip more than the winter editions, but are still vastly improving in ratings)

BB is a staple of Channel 5, British TV and British culture and there will always be a targetable market to make money. If ratings are poor, the producers will find ways around it, such as in this series, simple changes such as removing the news section and sweaty Box on BOTS and making the house design more simple, using commerical items, not one off, designer products.

BB is hear to stay, ratings yes are low at the moment but it still regularly hits Channel 5's most watched shows of the week, typically 6 out of 7 days.. furthermore, it's almost always rated at 3rd out of the main 5 channels, something which Channel 5 almost certainly never did before it acquired the show.


BB14 OVERNIGHTS / FIRST WEEK

2.1m, 2.1m, 1.3m, 1.5m, 1.5m, 1.4m, 1.3m, 1.3m, 1.8m (1.6 AVERAGE)

BB15 OVERNIGHTS / FIRST WEEK

2.1m, 1.6m, 1.0m, 1.5m, 1.2m, 1.3m, 1.2m, 1.0m, 1.0m (1.3 AVERAGE
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(Just to point out.. the Second week of BB14 had a reduction in ratings, meanwhile the current series, BB15 has had an increase in ratings in its second week)

BB14 OVERNIGHTS / SECOND WEEK AVERAGE - 1.3M
BB15 OVERNIGHTS / SECOND WEEK AVERAGE - 1.2M


CURRENT OFFICIAL - BB15 is only 80,000 viewers down on BB14 in terms of viewers (in it's first week), thus suggesting that although less are watching, far more are catching up in other areas besides the main broadcast show, this is incredibly good news as it further suggests this year's audience is slightly larger, despite the decrease in viewers as more are watching in other areas.

(Lets also bare in mind that BB12 and BB13 often struggled to even hit 1.2m-1.4m)

(Lets also bare in mind, ratings change so randomly, it's hardly a problem, remember the Daley Hazel episode, overnight data showed 1.7 million watched overnight, the highest of any highlights show on C5, all down to good advertisement and word of mouth)

Sorry this is so long to read, but I got awfully fed up of the bad news surrounding ratings. It's true, but not to the extent of cancellation, now if anybody can be bothered to read this MASSIVE post, I acknowledge you dearly!


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Those figures you posted there is where these bad articles are coming from. There is a difference of 400,000 on average and that first eviction being 800,000 viewers down doesn't help.

I do agree when people say viewing habits have changed though and that's why the overnights are poor. I think the first Sunday of BB15 got 1.9 in officials if im right which is promising for the rest of the series.

Just waiting on those next officials so we can make a proper judgement.
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Those figures you posted there is where these bad articles are coming from. There is a difference of 400,000 on average and that first eviction being 800,000 viewers down doesn't help.

I do agree when people say viewing habits have changed though and that's why the overnights are poor. I think the first Sunday of BB15 got 1.9 in officials if im right which is promising for the rest of the series.

Just waiting on those next officials so we can make a proper judgement.
Firstly it's a difference of around 290,000 if you want to be entirely specific and yes the first eviction was down some 800,000. But remember, BB14 had NO sporting event competiton, the fact that the eviction still garnered 1.0m this series with sporting competition of the likes of some 10 million, that's very good considering!

It's also worth noting the first week of officials


BB14 OFFICIALS WEEK 1

2.3m, 2.4m, 1.7m, 1.9m

BB15 OFFICIALS WEEK 1

2.3m, 1.8m, 1.3m, 1.7m

These ratings are still fairly solid when you consider Saturday shows are always way lower and this series has so much sporting competition, taking a large proportion of its target audience. I also stated that BB14 decreased in viewers quite some way on it's second week, whilst the current BB15 has increased slightly (OVERNIGHTS) so it's highly likely that both BB14 and BB15 will average similarly, i believe, with officials holding a change of some 100,000. It certainly won't be as poor as 1.6 million for BB12 and BB13, as even in it's first 4 days, it was above the 1.6m mark for officials, and as I have said, ratings for the second week have improved.. so it'll easily beat those ratings.

I understand it's hard to state where ratings will go after the second week, but in all honesty, it's not going to be terrible. As I keep stating, it's the NO.1 show on C5. It's got TONS of competition AND this year's series has had far more of a backlash from viewers than the previous as people, although loving the theme are disinterested in the HMs, so in my eyes the somewhat lower ratings are completely justified. There is no need to worry or fret.
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I hope the eviction got about 1.4 - 1.5
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An average audience of 1.09 million (5.6%) saw Pauline get voted out with 79% of the public vote. 524K stuck around to watch Big Brother's Bit on the Side


No people tell me these ratings aren't poor.

The football only pulled in 3.34 so theres no excuse.

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An average audience of 1.09 million (5.6%) saw Pauline get voted out with 79% of the public vote. 524K stuck around to watch Big Brother's Bit on the Side


No people tell me these ratings aren't poor.
Oh my, thats bad. I don't see why hardly anyone watched, there wasn't much competition.
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Oh my, thats bad. I don't see why hardly anyone watched, there wasn't much competition.
I know!

After ratings starting to build again I was expecting a 1.4/1.5 ratings.
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I know!

After ratings starting to build again I was expecting a 1.4/1.5 ratings.
Yeah, and like you said there was no excuse for bad ratings.

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An average audience of 1.09 million (5.6%) saw Pauline get voted out with 79% of the public vote. 524K stuck around to watch Big Brother's Bit on the Side


No people tell me these ratings aren't poor.

The football only pulled in 3.34 so theres no excuse.
Nope, The football got 4.41
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Nope, The football got 4.41
According to digital spy:

The 2014 FIFA World Cup continued with France vs Switzerland between 7.30pm and 10.15pm on ITV. The game, which France won 5-2, was seen by an average audience of 3.34 million (17.9%).

Where did you get that rating from? Even if it did get 4.41 that's still not big competition.

Also 8 out of 10 cats beat BB with 1.18 (5.9%) at 9pm.

No excuses for last night.

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according to digital spy:

the 2014 fifa world cup continued with france vs switzerland between 7.30pm and 10.15pm on itv. The game, which france won 5-2, was seen by an average audience of 3.34 million (17.9%).

where did you get that rating from? Even if it did get 4.41 that's still not big competition.

Also 8 out of 10 cats beat bb with 1.18 (5.9%) at 9pm.

No excuses for last night.
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I think they've added the +1 rating to that then but that would be a hell of a +1 figure. Then again it is ITV.

Its still not a great rating as that tweet says so wasn't really much competition for BB or other shows which did well against it.
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Yes to be fair everything was down last night
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Yes to be fair everything was down last night
Everything wasn't down.

3.82 million (19.4%) for Celebrity Masterchef at 8.30pm.

The Graham Norton Show secured an evening high of 4.29 million viewers (30.3%)

Over on BBC Two, Antiques Road Trip was seen by 1.57 million

Gardeners' World entertained 1.56 million (8.2%)

8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown was Channel 4's highest-rated show of the evening, pulling in 1.18 million (5.9%) at 9pm


These shows were all on from 7:30 onwards to 10:35 so there was a lot of people watching tv last night.

Up against the world cup if im correct?

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Was the BB rating with +1 Dan

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Oh **** off, it came last?
Not all those ratings were in direct competition with BB I was just responding to you asking if everything was down on tv last night which it wasn't.

I think BB came 3rd or 4th im not sure.

+1 hasn't been released AGAIN!!

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A 5.6% share isn't too bad. The share is pretty much on par with other episodes.

Please can we stop this ratings are poor stuff.. they're poor in your opinion. Just because they are lower than 2013 does not automatically mean they are 'poor'. The producers and C5 will be the ones who decide whether they are poor, satisfactory or good.
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A 5.6% share isn't too bad. The share is pretty much on par with other episodes.

Please can we stop this ratings are poor stuff.. they're poor in your opinion. Just because they are lower than 2013 does not automatically mean they are 'poor'. The producers and C5 will be the ones who decide whether they are poor, satisfactory or good.
*Bangs head against wall.

1.09 for an eviction.

That's my last word.

Theres nothing else I can say to anyone now who are stuck in their ratings are fine ways.

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*Bangs head against wall.

1.09 for an eviction.

That's my last word.

Theres nothing else I can say to anyone now who are stuck in their ratings are fine ways.
This is all a matter of opinion at the end of the day. The only people who really know whether the ratings are great, crap or whether the show is going down the route of being cancelled are the producers and C5.

All we can do is interpret them in our own ways.
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This is all a matter of opinion at the end of the day. The only people who really know whether the ratings are great, crap or whether the show is going down the route of being cancelled are the producers and C5.

All we can do is interpret them in our own ways.
No we can judge if a rating is poor, the figures are all out there in the public domain for all of us to see.

Just to let you know aswell when im talking about the ratings I am in no way reffering or thinking about it being axed.

Just simply the ratings.

That really is my final word lol.

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Terrible, especially for an eviction.
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Terrible, especially for an eviction.
Shh don't be negative.
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