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China found 1 Case of Delta Covid -19
which was found in Shanghai Disney World. All Exits were closed all visitors had to take a Covid Test before leaving. 34,000 of them. No more cases found. Of course Covid takes a few days to appear. This was on Monday 1st Nov. For 2 days that must stay at home in Isolation. Meanwhile, New Covid cases found in 16 Provinces around China Ref: WION HD Gravitas 4PM show SkyHD Ch523 Last edited by arista; 03-11-2021 at 12:37 AM. |
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https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/02/cabine...ules-explained
Netherlands: summary of last nights covid press conference (which was watched by 5 million people) Coronavirus passes will be required to enter a wider variety of locations in the Netherlands starting on November 6. Additionally, the use of face masks will be required in higher education facilities and all publicly accessible buildings which do not require a coronavirus pass. Those who do not adhere to face mask rules may be fined 95 euros, according to a statement from the Cabinet. No fine was specified for patrons evading the access pass rules. The new policy shift was discussed by Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Hugo de Jonge during a press conference on Tuesday. It was adopted based on advice received from the Outbreak Management Team. "Some people are against all measures. A cautious group wants many measures. Most of us are somewhere in between," Rutte said. "It is understandable that we struggle with that in our country." Weekly Covid-19 hospitalizations have tripled in one month, with 1,152 patients admitted during the past seven days, according to the LCPS. There were 1,312 people with the disease in treatment on Tuesday, a figure which doubled compared to two weeks earlier. The average number of daily coronavirus infections has increased from 1,672 a month ago to 7,740 on Tuesday, according to raw data from the RIVM. The situation will be re-evaluated on November 12. At that time, the coronavirus access pass system could be expanded even further. "That means a further distinction between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Unvaccinated people will then have to show that they have been tested in more places," Rutte stated. He said he hoped that the hospitality industry will not need to be restricted with tighter operating hours, or closed altogether. Access passes needed to enter many more venues The access passes are most often displayed as QR codes in the CoronaCheck app. Temporary codes are distributed to people who tested negative for coronavirus within 24 hours of entering a location where the code is required. Fixed codes are given to people who have either recently recovered from an infection, or who are considered to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19. The QR codes will be required before spending time on a cafe's outdoor terrace, all events including those where seating is assigned, professional and amateur sports competitions and practices where people older than 18 take part, and also all organized arts and culture rehearsals for people 18 years of age or older. "We know that the vaccine still works well against transmission. Not 100 percent, but that is also not possible," De Jonge said. The system is most safe for people who are fully vaccinated because their likelihood of experiencing serious symptoms of Covid-19 is far lower. "For whom is the risk greatest? For people who have not been vaccinated." The current requirements for access passes will remain in place. That includes entering the indoor space of any bar, cafe, restaurant, club, or casino. They will also be necessary for museums, cinemas, music venues, theaters, conferences, trade fairs, and events without a fixed seat. Cabinet ministers are also investigating if employers can ask employees for the QR codes at the workplace if customers and visitors are also required to use the system, such as in the hospitality sector. Other sectors are also being considered. They could also become necessary to enter non-essential retail locations, amusement parks, and zoos. Those who need to get tested in order to receive their access pass will still be able to do so for free, the Cabinet said. Face mask use expanded substantially starting this week Face masks will be required in all indoor public spaces. This includes all supermarkets, retailers, libraries, and amusement parks. It also includes all public transportation facilities, such as stations, shops, platforms, and stops, and also everywhere in an airport. The masks will again be required for people at vocational colleges, applied sciences universities, and research universities. The requirement is that people where the masks when moving around at these locations, but the masks may be removed when people sit down. Additionally, face masks will also be required at businesses requiring close contact between the service provider and a customer. Both will need a face mask under the new rules. Sex work has been excluded from this requirement The masks are not required to be worn where a coronavirus access pass is necessary for entry. De Jonge reiterated that by far the majority of people living in the Netherlands is vaccinated against Covid-19. "We have deliberately chosen measures which are protective, but which limit as little as possible for the largest group: the people who have been vaccinated," he said. Work from home, avoid rush hour, and get tested The government is again stressing that people have to work from home more frequently to avoid physical personal contacts. "Work at home for at least half of work hours," is the new advice from the Cabinet, with efect from Wednesday. Those headed to the workplace should try to avoid commuting during rush hour, as should people traveling in their spare time. "Your own behavior remains crucial. The most important thing is: stay at home with symptoms and get yourself tested. Even if you have been vaccinated," Rutte said. "People with symptoms must stay at home," as long as symptoms persist, and even after a coronavirus test, De Jonge said. "With a broken leg you should not drive, even if you have a driver's license." The other basic coronavirus measures should also be followed. These include keeping a safe distance from others, avoiding handshakes, washing hands frequently, sneezing into the elbow, and sufficiently ventilating indoor spaces. ----------------------- https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/03/new-co...ps-hospitality Football association KNVB and sports umbrella organization NOC*NSF called on parliament to reject the Cabinet's plan and keep sports at amateur associations accessible for everyone without a coronavirus access pass. From Saturday, anyone 18 and older who enters a sports complex must show the QR code proving that they are vaccinated, recovered from Covid-19, or tested negative for the coronavirus. "The plans of the Cabinet for amateur football are practically impossible to implement," said the KNVB. "Volunteers are worth gold but also scarce. Where do you get volunteers who will check QR codes seven days a week for all athletes and visitors at an accommodation? Other sectors have professionals who can check visitors at the only entrance. We have volunteers who will have to do the same at a very open sports complex with often multiple entrances." The football union asked for understanding. "Amateur football has gone along with all the coronavirus measures, but this is just a step too far and cannot be enforced. The term for the measure to take effect next weekend is completely unfeasible. Will associations that cannot take this step in time receive a fine? It all leads to great unrest and puts a heavy burden on associations, volunteers, and football players." The catering industry wants the Cabinet to come up with extra coronavirus support for bars and restaurants. That the coronavirus access pass will also be mandatory on terraces is another hard blow for catering entrepreneurs, said hospitality association KHN who spoke of "symbol politics." KHN chairman Rober Willemsen said that the Cabinet could not substantiate why the mandatory QR check is now also necessary on terraces. "Incomprehensible, since it does have a major financial impact for our members." This obligation would exclude some guests from the hospitality industry. And the check costs companies extra staff. According to the KHN, it will soon be tens of millions of euros in additional costs in the current quarter and possibly hundreds of millions in lost turnover. Shopkeepers are fine with the re-implementation of face masks in stores to reduce the number of coronavirus infections. But they call the possible introduction of coronavirus access passes in shops "absurd and pointless." It will lead to discussions at the shop door, has no support, and is not applied by any other country, retail sector organization INretail said in response to the Cabinet's coronavirus press conference. INretail stressed that shops are not a source of contamination. According to the organization, the coronavirus access pass is intended for places where you are within 1.5 meters of other people for 15 minutes or longer. A shop visit usually takes less time. Checking the access pass will also require tens of thousands of extra employees who are impossible to find due to the labor shortage, the organization said. INretail also pointed out that access passes are not required by any European country to enter a store. "After an experiment in some federal states, Germany concluded that it is unworkable," the organization said.
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Wednesday 3/11/21
217 have Died 41,299 have caught Covid-19 Patients in hospital Latest available 9,538 Patients in ventilation beds Latest available 1,030 140,964 Total UK Deaths https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ Last edited by arista; 03-11-2021 at 03:50 PM. |
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Netherlands todays new cases numbers
9.195 new cases, increase of 1.459 and the highest number of new cases in recent weeks 1.310 total hospitalisations 250 total on ICU's/ventilator 33 new deaths
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Yes Alf
Its wrong to be non vaccinated now |
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How does sacking 60,000 medical staff save people's lives?
This will cause more needless deaths that could have been saved. But as long as your peace of mind is at rest, then who cares? Last edited by Alf; 04-11-2021 at 08:00 AM. |
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The Old Folks in the Homes matter more
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it's pretty obvious that they cant fire them. No care home will sack staff if it leaves them short handed
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Netherlands: KNVB and NOC NSF's appeal against the coronavirus access pass has paid off well for them, majority of parliament last night voted against this access pass for amateur sports
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Netherlands todays numbers November 4th, 2021
10.272 new cases 1.327 total hospitalisations (146 new patients on nursing wards) 273 total on ICU's/ventilator (25 new patients on ventilators) 24 new deaths
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Germany new infection record today
33.949 new cases, the last record was at 33.777 in december last year health minister Jens Spahn says this is a pandemic among the unvaccinated although some of double vaccinated are also among those in hospital Germany's percentage of vaccinated is 77.5% almost no longer increasing, still Spahn wants to go ahead with the booster jabs to give more protection to those who need the extra protection among the double vaccinated whom are in risk group those who aren't in risk group, isn't hugely important as those in risk group
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Have we got case numbers for today yet?
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We did a random straw poll today in one of our classes of 34 students.
4 were off with Covid and 26 of the 30 present have already had Covid ( at least once ) So that’s 30 out of 34 which equates to slightly over 88% !! Not sure whether to be optimistic or pessimistic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 04-11-2021 at 04:23 PM. |
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