[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Except that's not the case. I've already explained why I voted for you and it had absolutely nothing to do with Mokka wanting to vote for you.

I honestly think that a lot of tonight has been made out to look like Mokka's trying to get me the win, and so it's probably looking like that's been the case throughout the game? But it isn't. Honestly, I don't mind if I end up losing, but I'll be gutted if I lose it because of that! I've had my own strategy, I've made my own decisions, I've won my own comps, and noone's got me to do anything I didn't want to do.

This is about me and Ross!

HOW DARE YOU!

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Stop making up lies

Excuse me.

You lied to me all along. Saying you had no friends and you voting me out!

[Jason.]

I'm deeply offended by Ross calling me a liar.

[reece(:]

[Jamie89]

Although I do just want to say that I think Mokka's "vote for Jamie" pleas, as well intentioned and appreciated as they are, could also have the effect of people losing respect for me and and the merit of my game, which I've worked really hard at and put a lot of thought into for the past 3 weeks. So I'll be really disappointed if that's the case and I hope it isnt because honestly it would pretty unfair.

[Jason.]

Jamie you bullied me and i want an apology!

[Daniel.]

I know Rpss its fine

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Tom*

Again, ROb and Marsh get out

Just picture it, Sicily 1922....

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Just picture it, Sicily 1922....

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Have you purchased Make Me on iTunes?

Originally Posted by Jamie89

No, and this is my biggest regret so far...

Originally Posted by Mokka

Nope...so vote for Jamie

[Cal.]

Oh wow

[Wizard.]

Well done to the final 2 on making it to the end! Maybe this is life intimidating art? Kelsey/Nick & Phil anyone? (Jamie is a much better competitor/player than Kelsey and Messie and far more likeable than those brothers).

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Riley95

Well done to the final 2 on making it to the end! Maybe this is life intimidating art? Kelsey/Nick & Phil anyone? (Jamie is a much better competitor/player than Kelsey and Messie and far more likeable than those brothers).

With Messie getting to the Final 2, I was dreading a Kelsey comparison Thank you for the congrats!


I've decided I'm going to post a final speech a bit later on because I want to clear a few things up/misunderstandings that I think there may have been, I also want to expose my game as much as possible so the Jury can make an informed choice (but I'll be doing so without exposing anyone else's game... in case anyone's worried about that )

Good luck Messie for the Final tonight!

[T*]

Jury questions are now over!
Finalists may post their final pleas.

[Jamie89]

I'll be posting mine in a bit, just writing it up now

[Jamie89]

It's not so much a plea really, what I've decided to do is lay my game out for anyone who wants to see or judge. If I was a Jury member it's something I'd want to see from a finalist, so here you go...

Firstly I want to share aspects of how myself and Mokka have worked together, but only because I know she'll be ok with it because she's already been open about her own game in this thread, and most of this is things that have been mentioned already, but I'm going into them with a bit more detail as to what happened. I thought I'd do that because there were a number of incorrect assumptions/implications being made last night by some, with regards to our games, and in particular I was slightly perturbed at the assumption I didn't have a game and was being led, so I felt it necessary just to clear things up and show what my thought processes were behind certain decisions that were made...

Spoiler:

- In terms of game talk, we only really started discussing tactics around the time of the Poster Design task. Admittedly we'd both said we would support each other near to when the game started, but I don't think there were any actual tactical conversations.
At this point though there was a conversation between us where it was suggested it might be a good idea to bring Ross and Lucas into an alliance to build numbers against the other side. I was already aligned with Ross though, and I had discussed with Lucas that it would benefit us to vote together and we were in agreement on that, so my suggestion was that we keep things as they were for the time being which is what we did.

- After Cal nominated Ross and Messie, Mokka suggested that if she won the veto it'd be best to use it to save Ross. We both acknowledged that in this scenario it would be most likely that I would be the replacement and be evicted, but we were in agreement that saving Ross would be the best move against the big alliance. I didn't think at that time that I'd be able to survive to the end because of being a target and low on alliance members, and Ross seemed like a better pick for making it through.

- There was a lot of confusion last night over the Jason vote, so to clarify exactly what happened between myself and Mokka...
Firstly there were a lot of messages flying around leading up to this vote, a lot of changing of plans etc, so looking at my inbox I can see why there was so much confusion last night But I confirmed to Mokka independently that I wanted to vote for Jason, and Mokka also confirmed to me that that's how she wanted to vote. There was also a separate message after this where Mokka confirmed to me that she wanted to vote Jason out, and I confirmed back that that's how I would be voting... so we kind of had the same conversation twice but the opposite way round hence the confusion with what happened there I think... and the assumption that my vote for Jason was only made because of Mokka's influence. But like I've said that wasn't the case, it's simply that we both had independant reasons for wanting to vote Jason out, and our alignment of that was more coincidental than it was a case of one of us trying to influence the other.

- In the final 8, final 6 and final 5 rounds when I was HoH, I asked Mokka if she would vote out Cal, Reece and Daniel respectively, as they were my targets.

I think I've got that pretty much accurate so hopefully it clarifies a few things that have been questioned... but there's been so many discussions during this game! If I've missed anything significant or got anything wrong I'm happy to be called up on it.

Anyway, Mokka's been an incredible ally to me in the game, and a hugely supportive person and I'm happy to have played alongside her, it really improved the experience for me and I thank her for that (and to be in the Final 2 together is amazing). We worked really well together when we've needed to, but we have also had our own individual games and strategies.

I had other allies too of course, but they might not want me to share information about things we discussed so I'm going to respect that.

--- ---- ---

This is every eviction result, who I voted for and my reasons for doing so:

Spoiler:

- Alex/Josiah: Voted for Alex and Josiah for being inactive and at such an early stage, I felt that it would be a massive shame if Cal, Dan X and Morgan didn't get the chance to play for longer.

- Lucas: (HoH so didn't vote, Lucas was my target though and left with a 10-3 ratio).

- Jason: Voted for Jason as I felt Daniel wanted to stay more.

- Riley: Voted for Riley because he wanted to leave the game.

- Rob/Marc: (Nominated so didn't vote, I did campaign to stay though.)

- Marsh/Brenda: (HoH but got to vote because I didn't get to select nominees) Voted for Marsh and Brenda for tactical reasons. Keeping Cald and Lucas was better for my game.

- Melih: Voted for Dan X as keeping Melih and Messie would have been better for my game, and I considered Dan more of a threat than Sam at that point.

- Lucas/Cald: Voted Sam and Dan X as Lucas and Cald staying would have been more beneficial to my game.

- Jason/Dan X: Voted Jason and Dan X as I felt they were the biggest threats in their respective pairings for that vote.

- Cal/Shaun: (HoH so didn't vote, but Cal was my target from my set of noms and left with a 2-0 ratio)

- Reece: (HoH so didn't vote, Reece was my target and left with a 2-1 ratio)

- Ross: (Nominated so didn't vote)

- Daniel: (HoH so didn't vote, Daniel was my target and left with a 1-0 ratio)

- Sam: (I Won HoH and took Mokka to Final 2 because she deserved it)

It's fair to say that during the early stages, I didn't put as much thought into long term strategy that I could have. That's not to say I didn't put any thought into it, but mostly I was just trying to get through round by round and I didn't really think more than a couple of rounds ahead. I just wanted to stay longer and continue participating in the challenges because they were so much fun to take part in and I thank Tom massively for that!

As the game progressed though I was thinking strategically more and more, and I made some great moves during the mid and end game in particular, which if I hadn't done I wouldn't be in the F2. I'll admit I've made some errors too, in terms of judging the best strategy for the long term, but I learnt from them and none of them were big enough to stop me from making the final 2.

--- --- ---

Ok so maybe a small plea...

Spoiler:

I'd love to win! It would really mean a lot to me. I always wanted to get far but it was only really from Ross's eviction onwards I felt driven to win because I didn't think I'd be able to before then, and he was my winner up to that point. And I think it's fair to say that I led the final part of the end game to get me to the Final 2, so really I've done all I could and I'm proud of that, and I feel like I've played a successful game overall regardless of the result tonight. I'm not gonna lie though, winning would feel incredible and for me it would be the perfect end to a great game!

Finally, good luck to Mokka for the vote tonight! And thank you to everyone who's played, it's been a lot of fun! And thanks Tom for putting all of this together, it must have taken so much time and effort and it's really appreciated

[Jason.]

I was obviously drunk last night.

[Jason.]

Jamie everything I said last night was a joke btw. I wasn't being serious at all. I thought I'd tell you cause you replied to a lot of it with long and serious posts. I don't have a problem with you. I said the same to Ross

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Jamie everything I said last night was a joke btw. I wasn't being serious at all. I thought I'd tell you cause you replied to a lot of it with long and serious posts. I don't have a problem with you.

Thanks I just thought I'd clarify it all because I didn't want there to be any misunderstandings

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Thanks I just thought I'd clarify it all because I didn't want there to be any misunderstandings

It's cool. I know your reasonings for doing what you did and it's fine. You didn't need to justify yourself.

Best of luck for tonight.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I was obviously drunk last night.

that explains a lot

[Ross.]

It certainly does Mokka

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Ross.

It certainly does Mokka

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Pete.

I guess I'm not voting for anyone

[Mokka]

ok... so

I said a lot of what I wanted to in the questions already... but

I know a lot of you are thinking... why did Messie stick to the end if they didn't want the win. Well as many of you have pointed out ... I did want to quit at several points in the game... mostly because I just found the schedule to hard to keep up with, because nessie was not as into playing as I had hoped, and because I got really sick of the TiBB politics that come into these games. It can never be a true BB format on here when everyone comes in with predetermined alliances and friend groups can it??

But that aside... I did stick with the game... but as I have said purely for the fact that I was playing in a team of people... and I thought it would be unfair to let that team down by quitting... because the numbers became increasingly stacked against us as new additions to the game always added to the other side of the house divide... which no one can deny existed tbh.

There was a point last week where I pm'd Jamie and Ross and said I think I needed to get out of the game that day... and I did go on the block that day... and one of the two of them won... I don't know which one... and I felt that talking to the two of them about.. things... at the time, and their friendship towards me and support... I felt bolstered by them... and didn't want to let them down as a team... so I was taken off the block that day... and then I just played for them. I had stopped wanting to win or playing to win already... but I didn't want to see their hope of getting to the end squashed by my selfishness.. so I played on ... but only for Jamie and Ross and Cald... who unfortunately went out that vote

I was able by staying to win that double veto with Jamie... and turn the tide in his favour. Jamie has played so hard and won so many comps throughout... had friendships and alliances on many fronts... and honestly is the male version of Ammi on this forum... he never has a bad word to say about anyone... is always gracious and kind... and has put 1000% into this game.

If you decide to vote for me over him out of spite or malice... the bad karma be on you... but I know I would be devastated to take this win from Jamie... and would probably hid the forum award off my profile out of shame.

The end