[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought they said that as yet they have no idea at all if it will be resistant to our current vaccines

Yes they will need to test it.


Tomorrow it goes New Worldwide Covid Alert



New 'worst-ever' super-mutant Covid variant
that will make vaccines at least 40 per cent 'less effective'
as flights are BANNED from South Africa and
five other African countries

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-strain.html

[arista]

[arista]

The New Trouble Strain.

[bitontheslide]

yes, but any new strain has to be more transmissable than the current one or it wont take off. Also, i'm fed up with their "can beat the vaccine" crap. We had the same with all the other variants.

Don't people see that our booster program is doing great, its giving the elderly a bit of confidence, and then they come out with this sh it. It's intentional

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, but any new strain has to be more transmissable than the current one or it wont take off. Also, i'm fed up with their "can beat the vaccine" crap. We had the same with all the other variants.

Don't people see that our booster program is doing great, its giving the elderly a bit of confidence, and then they come out with this sh it. It's intentional

likely to be true for you guys, since majority of UK is jabbed with the weaker vaccine AstraZeneca

oops

[arista]

Simon Calder
Outside the South Africa House Central London

Flights from Infected Nations are landing right now
no testing,
and going straight home
possible more spreading.


This is all wrong
The Ban does not come in until later,
this is how it will spread in the UK.

From Sunday 4AM
you all go into Expensive Hotels
over Ł2,000 must be paid.



GMBHD itv live 7:20AM

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: today the day of the extra covid press conference

OMT's advice is to close pubs, cinema's, theatres, non-essential stores at 5 PM

but to leave schools open, however the organisation of the pubs, bars, restaurants a representative Robér Willemsen says they rather want a full lockdown than a partial lockdown since closing at 5 PM is not good for business either and they don't feel anything for keeping schools open, they think that will still get cases going up and a partial lockdown will have no effect whatsoever


so it is a difficult decision for PM Rutte and health minister De Jonge

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

Simon Calder
Outside the South Africa House Central London

Flights from Infected Nations are landing right now
no testing,
and going straight home
possible more spreading.


This is all wrong
The Ban does not come in until later,
this is how it will spread in the UK.

From Sunday 4AM
you all go into Expensive Hotels
over Ł2,000 must be paid.


GMBHD itv live 7:20AM

You can't stop new variants entering a country, that has been proven over the last 2 years across the world. All you can do is slow it down a bit

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, but any new strain has to be more transmissable than the current one or it wont take off. Also, i'm fed up with their "can beat the vaccine" crap. We had the same with all the other variants.

Don't people see that our booster program is doing great, its giving the elderly a bit of confidence, and then they come out with this sh it. It's intentional

I wouldn't worry. Vaccines can be modified to fight off the new variants.
At the moment we have ok, but we might need to do that if it's necessary.

[Vanessa]

I think the boosters are Pfizer, so we're good.
But i think Astrazeneca is good as well.
I've felt very protected with both of them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You can't stop new variants entering a country, that has been proven over the last 2 years across the world. All you can do is slow it down a bit

Sure Slow it down

But so many are now rushing back to avoid the Hotel Fee


Loads of flights
from those African nations

[arista]

"Nu" is the name they are going to use for the Botswana Variant


Ref: Ch5HD AM Live debate


Ch5HD Cut out 9:35AM to 9:38AM

As the Two women on the panel
were arguing about Illegal migrants

The Editor went to a Shopping Channel
Flogging Hair Products cheap.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure Slow it down

But so many are now rushing back to avoid the Hotel Fee


Loads of flights
from those African nations

but banning countries doesn't make any difference unless every other country bans them to, because otherwise it will still spread and come in through the other route. The other aspect is that usually, the variant is already here, it's been transmitted around the globe before anyone detects it. There are plenty things to get angry about, but stopping a variant coming into the country is not one of them

[Alf]

Youtube video

[Cherie]

we only went and jinxed it, we were saying there had been no new variants of note in months

[arista]

The Health Secretary
is Live on all 3 News Channels

Talking about the African Problem.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but banning countries doesn't make any difference unless every other country bans them to, because otherwise it will still spread and come in through the other route. The other aspect is that usually, the variant is already here, it's been transmitted around the globe before anyone detects it. There are plenty things to get angry about, but stopping a variant coming into the country is not one of them

It will almost certainly already be seeded across the globe if it's started to be picked up in testing. These "names by country" variants didn't even necessarily mutate in the named country... it's just the country where the variant was first detected.

[arista]

[Super-mutant Botswana Covid variant
is now spotted in
Israel:
Germany and
Italy are latest to seal off South Africa as B.1.1.529
variant drives 93% spike in cases
in a day - but there are NO reports of hospitalisations
in epicentre Johannesburg]

[Israel has detected a case in a traveller who had
recently returned from Malawi and
two suspected cases
Its infection is the third outside Africa
after two were also spotted in Hong Kong
in returning travellers
UK will suspend all travel from
six Southern African nations today
to help lock the variant out of the country]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...two-weeks.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You can't stop new variants entering a country, that has been proven over the last 2 years across the world. All you can do is slow it down a bit

Surely banning all flights coming from those red list countries would be an excellent way of ‘slowing’ things down


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely banning all flights coming from those red list countries would be an excellent way of ‘slowing’ things down


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not if its already here

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely banning all flights coming from those red list countries would be an excellent way of ‘slowing’ things down


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If it's been picked up somewhere the likelihood is that it's already in most countries in some form. They don't check every single Covid test in depth to identify the strain, most are just done on a positive/negative basis, with random sampling to see if new strains show up. If a few examples of a strain start showing up during random testing, then you can be pretty sure that that strain is also responsible for many other cases, and just because it hasn't shown up in a random sample here yet, doesn't mean it isn't already active. Of course the more a strain takes hold, the more likely it is to be picked up.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands also bans flights from South Africa

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not if its already here

This new variant probably isn't here in the UK yet ,but then again who knows.

It figures .. this would have to be more aggressive than the delta one ,oh great .

This pandemic isn't going anywhere.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Official as of Sunday there'll be a evening lockdown

no one is allowed outdoors after 5 PM

non-essential stores, pubs, restaurants must close and this lockdown will last for the next 3 weeks

this will also count for museums, theme parks, zoo's, gyms, cinema's, amateur sports


schools can remain open but with face mask compulsory rules, failure to stick to this rule and you can close


essential stores will remain open until 8 PM