[Parmy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Glad to see the Tories have jumped into a great lead in the polls over Commie and his mob since Boris took over

A very telling statistic...bring on the election that labour wants...that hopeless and hapless bunch of nosewipes have no chance...why would they even think they had!!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

A very telling statistic...bring on the election that labour wants...that hopeless and hapless bunch of nosewipes have no chance...why would they even think they had!!

yep, in that election Boris would again win with a huge landslide

everyone loves the King of entertainment Boris Johnson

[joeysteele]

Why oh why does anyone put any faith in polling now.

All polls still indicate a likely hung parliament.

Theresa May called an election when polls had her up to and over 20% ahead.
She ended up barely being 2%

One poll means little, I neither get interested or despondent when Labour is ahead or behind in them.

I just think the volatile mood of voters means the polls are not even a guide now, let alone accurate.

Every new PM usually does get a bounce.
Gordon Brown had one too, then in a few weeks it crashed and he was out in 2010.

David Cameron had a large lead in 2010 but ended up with a hung parliament.

May's massive lead when the 2017 campaign began was wiped out just like her overall majority.

Relying now, in my view, on UK pollsters is a mugs game.
No matter what Party is ahead.

[Oliver_W]

I see what you're saying, but regardless of what the polls say, "everyone knew" that Trump and Brexit would both win, and as Corbyn's star was still high when May called the snap, everyone knew it was unwise.

[bots]

we have never been in a more unpredictable time in british politics so polls at this point are completely useless.

If article 50 is revoked, you can bet that the Brexit party will do well, but so will the anti brexit parties. If we end up with a hard brexit, all bets are off ... who knows how it will shape up. If we leave with a deal, I think Boris and the tories could do quite well. We will know soon enough

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I see what you're saying, but regardless of what the polls say, "everyone knew" that Trump and Brexit would both win, and as Corbyn's star was still high when May called the snap, everyone knew it was unwise.

I dont think anyone expected Trump to win

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I see what you're saying, but regardless of what the polls say, "everyone knew" that Trump and Brexit would both win, and as Corbyn's star was still high when May called the snap, everyone knew it was unwise.

Well, exactly.

You near make my point.
The polls indicated a Clinton win.
Indicated a remain win.

Neither did, so the polls were wrong.

Also both stars were high in 2017.
Corbyn winning a second vote as leader and May not a year into her own premiership with a massive lead over Labour.

So the polls are at best, in my view utter tripe now.
No matter what they are saying.

I forgot too in 2015, a hung parliament was expected with either Labour or the Conservatives largest Party.
Neck and neck on polling.

Labour were well behind and Cameron got an overall majority.

The polls have become really a joke now since the end of the 90s I'd say.
Plus,the margin of error of them used to be plus or minus 3%
I think the margin of error now is even larger myself.

[Oliver_W]

I forgot to round it up by saying I think the current "everyone knows" is the Labour under Corbyn would get trounced by the Tories under Boris.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I forgot to round it up by saying I think the current "everyone knows" is the Labour under Corbyn would get trounced by the Tories under Boris.

i don't think you can say that with any certainty. May was going to trounce Corbyn at the last election and then executed the most ludicrous campaign ever because she thought she couldn't lose. She was right, she couldn't but it was too close for comfort

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't think you can say that with any certainty. May was going to trounce Corbyn at the last election and then executed the most ludicrous campaign ever because she thought she couldn't lose. She was right, she couldn't but it was too close for comfort

Like I said, even then May was seen as a bit weak and Corbyn's temporary star was high in the sky, so regardless of polls I still think the "everyone knew" was that it wasn't the best idea.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like I said, even then May was seen as a bit weak and Corbyn's temporary star was high in the sky, so regardless of polls I still think the "everyone knew" was that it wasn't the best idea.

Not at all, Corbyn had just survived a total walkout of all his MP's and a leadership battle, everyone said he had no chance in hell of winning

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Not at all, Corbyn had just survived a total walkout of all his MP's and a leadership battle, everyone said he had no chance in hell of winning

True, some polls are only placing Corbyn 1 point behind... anything could happen before a GE is called, Boris is power crazed atm he could do anything whereas Labour are galvanising in marginals and have very clear strategic plans for infrastructure.
If there's one person who can defuse Boris and his bluster it's Corbyn.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Not at all, Corbyn had just survived a total walkout of all his MP's and a leadership battle, everyone said he had no chance in hell of winning

he survived because there was no one and i mean no one, cable of mounting a challenge - he is in there because no one else wants it

the party is on its arse - lets call it straight

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he survived because there was no one and i mean no one, cable of mounting a challenge - he is in there because no one else wants it

the party is on its arse - lets call it straight

Corbyn has made the Labour party a laughing stock

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he survived because there was no one and i mean no one, cable of mounting a challenge - he is in there because no one else wants it

the party is on its arse - lets call it straight

And who does it have now? ... There's further articles suggesting should he step down Labour would leapfrog Boris in the polls, how? Who with?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he survived because there was no one and i mean no one, cable of mounting a challenge - he is in there because no one else wants it

the party is on its arse - lets call it straight

British Politics is on its arse. The Tories would most likely win another general election after 2+ straight years of literally nothing but pantomime and incompetence. That should say it all. For someone to look back at the government over the last couple of years and say "Yeah let's have that again". **** me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

British Politics is on its arse. The Tories would most likely win another general election after 2+ straight years of literally nothing but pantomime and incompetence. That should say it all. For someone to look back at the government over the last couple of years and say "Yeah let's have that again". **** me.

It shows you how bad labour have been

literally not put a glove on the Conservatives after THAT 3 years

[Crimson Dynamo]

[arista]

[Kizzy]

Again...ditch him for who? A 'moderate' ?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again...ditch him for who? A 'moderate' ?

Ditch him for someone that wouldn’t be so dangerous for the establishment or for the elite essentially, that’s why he’s so disliked by the Tories.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again...ditch him for who? A 'moderate' ?

someone who can make Labour ''the people's party'' as they are here in my country (here with me they had their downs but now at the recent EU election they went up again and a huge majority win too)

our Labour leader Asscher is more up close with the young generation, so doing social events like football, skateboarding, basketball with youth from troubled homes

yes he is disliked by other party leaders but so were some of the Labour PM's such as highly controversial Den Uyl


but overall i like Asscher, he can have good debates against our current PM Mark Rutte, let's say he isn't like Corbyn, and he almost has a similar attitude/voice as Boris in your country has in political debates, in parliament and in tv debates

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ditch him for someone that wouldn’t be so dangerous for the establishment or for the elite essentially, that’s why he’s so disliked by the Tories.

And who exactly are "the elite"?

Rich people you mean? The employers and investors of this country... the b*stards, eh?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

And who exactly are "the elite"?

Rich people you mean? The employers and investors of this country... the b*stards, eh?

Neoliberal heroes

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

And who exactly are "the elite"?

Rich people you mean? The employers and investors of this country... the b*stards, eh?

yes the scum that employ me and pay for all the good things in my life like holidays, cars, gifts - luxuries

pigs the lot of them