[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

I would have given you abuse.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

I would have given you abuse.

I didn't know you were such a conformist Alf.

[arista]

A Shop For Alf

Co-Op latest supermarket to not enforce mask wearing


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59481287



Lucky Alf
[staff would not refuse to serve customers who were not wearing one.]

[bitontheslide]

no staff in any big shop will refuse to serve someone wearing a mask. It involves them in personal confrontation and they aren't paid for that.

Also, there were only a couple of instances where it was enforced during restriction times, so it's hardly going to be different this time

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

A Shop For Alf

Co-Op latest supermarket to not enforce mask wearing


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59481287



Lucky Alf
[staff would not refuse to serve customers who were not wearing one.]

Iceland also said the same.

You who comply are fastly becoming the minority. People are waking up, the rest of you are becoming vaccine addicts, junkies.

Don't forget you can take the regular flu jab too, that'll stop you from rattling until your next Covid booster.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Alf

Iceland also said the same.

You who comply are fastly becoming the minority. People are waking up, the rest of you are becoming vaccine addicts, junkies.

Don't forget you can take the regular flu jab too, that'll stop you from rattling until your next Covid booster.

Just wait until you become vulnerable Alf, you may see things differently. Anyway, at the moment you are coming over as a complete arse to me

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/01/ten-pe...now-sick-leave

Netherlands: there has been a emergency meeting by our RIVM chief Jaap van Dissel and chairman of the National Acute Care Network (LNAZ), Ernst Kuipers

Ten percent of doctors, nurses now on sick leave

In September, just before the current coronavirus wave, over 6 percent of doctors and nurses were on sick leave.

Kuipers also said that the number of coronavirus patients in hospitals would likely rise to above 3,200 in the next two weeks. Hospitals are currently treating over 2,800 people for Covid-19, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus.

The National Coordination Center for Patient Distribution (LCPS) calculated three scenarios. In the most favorable case, the number of coronavirus patients in nursing wards will rise from over 2,200 now to 2,430 in mid-December. In that case, the intensive care units would treat about 780 people, compared to about 600 now. This would mean that a total of 3,210 hospital beds would be occupied by people with Covid-19.

If the current growth continues, a slightly less favorable scenario, the number of admitted patients will rise to about 3,700 in the coming weeks, including 900 in intensive care units. In the worst-case scenario, if the influx increases, the number of coronavirus patients in hospitals would rise to almost 4,500.

Kuipers expects that the latest corona measures will help lower the virus's reproduction number to below 1. In that case, the number of new cases would gradually decrease. In the long run, fewer patients would end up in hospitals.
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https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/01/booste...itute-director

If the Netherlands started its Covid-19 booster shot campaign earlier, fewer vaccinated people would currently be in hospital, Jaap van Dissel of public health institute RIVM said in parliament on Wednesday. "Yes, I think we could have prevented part of that," he said in response to questions from MPs, NOS reports.

According to him, the high number of coronavirus infections is connected to the fact that the effectiveness of the vaccines has declined slightly in "relatively many" frail, older people. "We will have to increase that with boosters," he said. But he added that it is also important not to give the extra shot too quickly - they are only effective about six months after someone has been fully vaccinated.

The Netherlands first administered booster shots to people with severe immune disorders. On November 19, the booster campaign started for people aged 80 or older.

Earlier in the technical briefing, Ernst Kuipers of the national acute care network LNAZ also stressed the need for booster shots. "The sooner we can boost people over 60 and those with underlying disease, the faster you can expect admissions in those groups to go down." He also said that Covid-19 hospitalizations would likely top 3,200 people in the coming weeks.



oh yes Jaap Tamino, you big moron he realizes this only now, really wish Roel Coutinho still was the RIVM chief here, things wouldn't have been this horrible as they currently are

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Iceland also said the same.

You who comply are fastly becoming the minority. People are waking up, the rest of you are becoming vaccine addicts, junkies.

Don't forget you can take the regular flu jab too, that'll stop you from rattling until your next Covid booster.

Alf
I am no Junkie


I do not need the Flu jab.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Just wait until you become vulnerable Alf, you may see things differently. Anyway, at the moment you are coming over as a complete arse to me

Of course I am, that's because I'm not doing what you want me to do or say. You want me to tell you you're in the right.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Alf
I am no Junkie


I do not need the Flu jab.

How many shots in the arm have you had this year? And do you plan on more?

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays hospitalisation, icu numbers

2.768 total hospitalisations (77 less than yesterday)

2.181 total on nursing wards (69 less than yesterday)

587 total on ICU's/ventilators (8 less than yesterday)



for the ICU's that is non-covid patients excluded

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

How many shots in the arm have you had this year? And do you plan on more?

I Follow what the Health Secretary issues


Except the Flu Jab
which I have never had

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

I Follow what the Health Secretary issues


Except the Flu Jab
which I have never had

What if Labour were in power and someone like Corbyn, Abbott or Lammey was health Secretary, would you follow them too?

[Nicky91]

how did Netherlands vaccination percentage get lower?

first 85% of population, now 83%

[Lewismacfarlane]

Just recovered from my booster jag

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

Just recovered from my booster jag

Ready for another?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands todays hospitalisation, icu numbers

2.768 total hospitalisations (77 less than yesterday)

2.181 total on nursing wards (69 less than yesterday)

587 total on ICU's/ventilators (8 less than yesterday)



for the ICU's that is non-covid patients excluded

18.588 new cases, but could be more since there were once again technical errors at RIVM


332 new patients on nursing wards

42 new patients on ICU's/ventilators

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

How many shots in the arm have you had this year? And do you plan on more?

if you had cancer would you refuse chemo? not too many would and that has a devastating affect on the body.

Not had any side affects from my 3 jabs sore arm first time, nothing the second, sore arm with the 3rd, which is nearly gone now 24 hours later

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

What if Labour were in power and someone like Corbyn, Abbott or Lammey was health Secretary, would you follow them too?

Yes

[Alf]

Bravo Denise. You stick to your guns girl and don't let them bully you.

Youtube video

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

if you had cancer would you refuse chemo? not too many would and that has a devastating affect on the body.

Not had any side affects from my 3 jabs sore arm first time, nothing the second, sore arm with the 3rd, which is nearly gone now 24 hours later

No.

I once stuck a suppository up my arse when I had piles, doesn't mean I'd stick a dildo up there.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Alf

Of course I am, that's because I'm not doing what you want me to do or say. You want me to tell you you're in the right.

im not stopping you saying anything, but i think you are being an idiot, and i'm also entitled to say that

[Lewismacfarlane]

Originally Posted by Alf

Ready for another?

Not quite but if I had to get another I would

[bitontheslide]

there will be boosters every 6-12 months until it is no longer a threat. I'm happy to do that.

If i feel a headache coming on, i take a pain killer, the alternative is to suffer. Why would I think differently over something that can actually kill

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

im not stopping you saying anything, but i think you are being an idiot, and i'm also entitled to say that

An idiot is quite a tame insult compared with some of the others I get called, so I'll take that.