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dennissabre · 24-07-2009, 02:34 PM

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No, no, I don't for one minute hold her entirely responsible for the whole situation with Marcus and with Sree.... they're idiots who have made complete wallies of themselves. But I do have a little empathy for them as they are just blundering idiots who would never get a chance to talk to a beautiful girl like her in real life and they fell for her hook, line and sinker. Their actions are not that of the normal, humble fella off the street- their egos soared once they were accepted into the big brother arena and when a beautiful girl like Noirin tolerated them and lay with them, they thought their birthdays had all come at once.

I in no way claim that they're innocent in these little games but she did have an uncanny ability to make them feel like dirt and then bring them back into her attentions. That's not on as far as I'm concerned and I believe she was well aware of the hold she had on them throughout the whole affair.

Her manipulative and controlling streak got the better of her through the whole bunnygate(yes, i hate it too) scenario and , as a result she was isolated more and more and came closer to Marcus..... a guy she had tossed aside prior to this. Now Marcus is an egotistical know it all who loved waffling to Noirin about everything but you must remember she gained from that too.....alot of tips on other housemates. When did she begin to abandon Marcus again? When new housemates arrived. She always had control of that relationship, no matter what you think of Marcus.

And I don't think she's naive for one moment. This is a girl who didn't even tell her friends or family that she was going to be on Big Brother. This is a girl who's already had experience in the reality T.V world. She knows exactly what she's doing in there..... the only time we see any genuine feelings from her is when she thinks her stay in there is in jeopardy- when the games up. I think it could be up for her very soon.

It's a Gameshow and she's playing it brilliantly by having to do very. Men find her attractive and women are jealous of that fact as she said in her introduction.

Go Noirin

Dennis, you have time and again responded to all the remarks and insults levelled at Noirin by stating that she's an honest, genuine and caring person. I have never ever seen any examples of these kind of personality traits coming from her. And now you along with the rest of the Noirin brigade suddenly decide to champion her as the great gameplayer and tactician, which flies in the face of every single defence you had previously made for her.

Not at all. I said from the beginning that i i thought she was playing the game of BB very well as i said in numerous threads.

As you are wellaware my threads of late have concentrated on the unecessary abuse aimed at her,most of which has been unjustified and without proof.

She is a very attractive woman who 5 men in the house have fallen for. I am saying that in the game of BB she has done very wellin getting these men on 'side' by doing very little!

Very good if you ask me when other housemates have to work so hard at gaining allies.

What about the times you have said repeatedly that shes warm, caring, intelligent and genuine? You've constantly being saying this and now all of a sudden you change the threads to- good on you girl, playing a great game. There's no consistency with ur threads. Everything she does in that house forces you to change your tone and direction.... change your defence strategy.

I stand by everything i have said about her. You just don't like her so now you attack me and every other poster on here who has positive things to say about her. I've noticed this in other threads you have replied to about her her.

As for my opinions and changing them,i'll leave that up to me thanks.

Thanks for the interest but i'm done with you now.

Bye

setanta · 24-07-2009, 02:41 PM

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No, no, I don't for one minute hold her entirely responsible for the whole situation with Marcus and with Sree.... they're idiots who have made complete wallies of themselves. But I do have a little empathy for them as they are just blundering idiots who would never get a chance to talk to a beautiful girl like her in real life and they fell for her hook, line and sinker. Their actions are not that of the normal, humble fella off the street- their egos soared once they were accepted into the big brother arena and when a beautiful girl like Noirin tolerated them and lay with them, they thought their birthdays had all come at once.

I in no way claim that they're innocent in these little games but she did have an uncanny ability to make them feel like dirt and then bring them back into her attentions. That's not on as far as I'm concerned and I believe she was well aware of the hold she had on them throughout the whole affair.

Her manipulative and controlling streak got the better of her through the whole bunnygate(yes, i hate it too) scenario and , as a result she was isolated more and more and came closer to Marcus..... a guy she had tossed aside prior to this. Now Marcus is an egotistical know it all who loved waffling to Noirin about everything but you must remember she gained from that too.....alot of tips on other housemates. When did she begin to abandon Marcus again? When new housemates arrived. She always had control of that relationship, no matter what you think of Marcus.

And I don't think she's naive for one moment. This is a girl who didn't even tell her friends or family that she was going to be on Big Brother. This is a girl who's already had experience in the reality T.V world. She knows exactly what she's doing in there..... the only time we see any genuine feelings from her is when she thinks her stay in there is in jeopardy- when the games up. I think it could be up for her very soon.

It's a Gameshow and she's playing it brilliantly by having to do very. Men find her attractive and women are jealous of that fact as she said in her introduction.

Go Noirin

Dennis, you have time and again responded to all the remarks and insults levelled at Noirin by stating that she's an honest, genuine and caring person. I have never ever seen any examples of these kind of personality traits coming from her. And now you along with the rest of the Noirin brigade suddenly decide to champion her as the great gameplayer and tactician, which flies in the face of every single defence you had previously made for her.

Not at all. I said from the beginning that i i thought she was playing the game of BB very well as i said in numerous threads.

As you are wellaware my threads of late have concentrated on the unecessary abuse aimed at her,most of which has been unjustified and without proof.

She is a very attractive woman who 5 men in the house have fallen for. I am saying that in the game of BB she has done very wellin getting these men on 'side' by doing very little!

Very good if you ask me when other housemates have to work so hard at gaining allies.

What about the times you have said repeatedly that shes warm, caring, intelligent and genuine? You've constantly being saying this and now all of a sudden you change the threads to- good on you girl, playing a great game. There's no consistency with ur threads. Everything she does in that house forces you to change your tone and direction.... change your defence strategy.

I stand by everything i have said about her. You just don't like her so now you attack me and every other poster on here who has positive things to say about her. I've noticed this in other threads you have replied to about her her.

As for my opinions and changing them,i'll leave that up to me thanks.

Thanks for the interest but i'm done with you now.

Bye

I've never attacked you personally, never insulted you or been aggressive when it concerns Noirin. I have just spoken rationally and stated how and why I believe her to be a vile person. I've spoken with candour but have always been willing to listen and debate with others concerning her. But the thing is that I've always been consistent in my misgivings concerning her. I think you feel threatened by that because I have stated so clearly my reasons behind my anger with her and that forces you into a corner from where you can't escape. Thats why you accuse me off attacking you. It's quite funny that you resort to that.

WOMBAI · 24-07-2009, 02:58 PM

Setanta - guys like you will always denegrate women for behaviour that you would applaud in the guys. It is called double standards!!!! Norin is free to do as she likes. If she is playing a game - so what. Isn't that what they are in there for?

I have watched every show - and Norin has only responded to one man's attentions. The rest were unwanted - and she made that perfectly clear. Those guys had their own game plans - but Norin wasn't playing.

The biggest game player in there is Marcus - I don't hear you being critical of him.

IndigoJo · 24-07-2009, 03:42 PM

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She hasn't actually done anything wrong though, ever guy that has fancied her she has made it very clear she doesn't fancy them, she's just friendly!

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

If she was really playing a game, she would have gotten with someone a long time ago, to have a Fake Romance, probably with HALFWIT, as he was being shown to be popular.

AND Siavash has liked her for awhile, so she could have done something before now. I think it has just grown as they've gotten closer!!!!

fab07 · 24-07-2009, 03:49 PM

wake up you mugs! its so fakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee people on here will believe anything

amy-jayne · 24-07-2009, 03:52 PM

Have all the people defending her watched the unseen audition tape, she comes across exactly how she did in the tape. She might have told Sree and Marcus she didnt fancy them and only wanted to be friends, but she still hung around with them 24/7 giving hugs and confiding in them with everything, if she was really that nice she would distance herself from Marcus completley, or tell him she likes Siavash (if she really does), and he would leave her alone then, by not telling him, shes keeping a secret from him and maybe even keeping his hopes alive. I cant believe you lot cant see through her

amy-jayne · 24-07-2009, 03:52 PM

Have all the people defending her watched the unseen audition tape, she comes across exactly how she did in the tape. She might have told Sree and Marcus she didnt fancy them and only wanted to be friends, but she still hung around with them 24/7 giving hugs and confiding in them with everything, if she was really that nice she would distance herself from Marcus completley, or tell him she likes Siavash (if she really does), and he would leave her alone then, by not telling him, shes keeping a secret from him and maybe even keeping his hopes alive. I cant believe you lot cant see through her

WOMBAI · 24-07-2009, 04:31 PM

if Norin gets on with certain guys - why shouldn't she continue to be friendly with them just because they want to read more into it. That is their problem - not hers - she has been straight with them. They are not children - but grown men. Marcus in particular is a lot older and can look after himself. Have you not noticed the games he has been playing. He is very manipulative and has tried hard to make Norin doubt herself and others - in an attempt to make her more dependent on him.

He has made her feel uncomfortable about even talking to other guys in the house and he has no right to. He is too old for her anyway - and he should know better.

Maybe you can't see through him.

WOMBAI · 24-07-2009, 04:32 PM

if Norin gets on with certain guys - why shouldn't she continue to be friendly with them just because they want to read more into it. That is their problem - not hers - she has been straight with them. They are not children - but grown men. Marcus in particular is a lot older and can look after himself. Have you not noticed the games he has been playing. He is very manipulative and has tried hard to make Norin doubt herself and others - in an attempt to make her more dependent on him.

He has made her feel uncomfortable about even talking to other guys in the house and he has no right to. He is too old for her anyway - and he should know better.

Maybe you can't see through him.

IndigoJo · 24-07-2009, 06:13 PM

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if Norin gets on with certain guys - why shouldn't she continue to be friendly with them just because they want to read more into it. That is their problem - not hers - she has been straight with them. They are not children - but grown men. Marcus in particular is a lot older and can look after himself. Have you not noticed the games he has been playing. He is very manipulative and has tried hard to make Norin doubt herself and others - in an attempt to make her more dependent on him.

He has made her feel uncomfortable about even talking to other guys in the house and he has no right to. He is too old for her anyway - and he should know better.

Maybe you can't see through him.

I totally agree!!!! I've stayed friends with guys who liked me more than I liked them. In that house it was difficult for her to be friends with the girls, they were all in Lisa's gang! She probably would have been friends with Saffia, and now she is getting on with Bea, she is just a different sort of girl, likes more down to earth people.

Marcus should be ashamed of his behavior! He comes across as a bit of a player sometimes, talking all Ti*s and A*se, so she might just see him as being flirtatious, not sure when he is being serious about liking her. AND SHE DID TELL HIM THAT SHE WASN'T INTERESTED!!!

dennissabre · 24-07-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
if Norin gets on with certain guys - why shouldn't she continue to be friendly with them just because they want to read more into it. That is their problem - not hers - she has been straight with them. They are not children - but grown men. Marcus in particular is a lot older and can look after himself. Have you not noticed the games he has been playing. He is very manipulative and has tried hard to make Norin doubt herself and others - in an attempt to make her more dependent on him.

He has made her feel uncomfortable about even talking to other guys in the house and he has no right to. He is too old for her anyway - and he should know better.

Maybe you can't see through him.

COMMONSENSE by name etc

dennissabre · 26-07-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
if Norin gets on with certain guys - why shouldn't she continue to be friendly with them just because they want to read more into it. That is their problem - not hers - she has been straight with them. They are not children - but grown men. Marcus in particular is a lot older and can look after himself. Have you not noticed the games he has been playing. He is very manipulative and has tried hard to make Norin doubt herself and others - in an attempt to make her more dependent on him.

He has made her feel uncomfortable about even talking to other guys in the house and he has no right to. He is too old for her anyway - and he should know better.

Maybe you can't see through him.

I totally agree!!!! I've stayed friends with guys who liked me more than I liked them. In that house it was difficult for her to be friends with the girls, they were all in Lisa's gang! She probably would have been friends with Saffia, and now she is getting on with Bea, she is just a different sort of girl, likes more down to earth people.

Marcus should be ashamed of his behavior! He comes across as a bit of a player sometimes, talking all Ti*s and A*se, so she might just see him as being flirtatious, not sure when he is being serious about liking her. AND SHE DID TELL HIM THAT SHE WASN'T INTERESTED!!!

Excellent comments from you both which is so refreshing

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