[golden]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No. Stop trying to twist my words. I did not see him steal it. But they are there. They are more likely to know than us.

Vicky, did you see the lf when it started? Marcus & Freddie by the pool. Marcus saying he 'thinks' it must've been David. David makes the mistake of mentioning he's hungry a lot & Marcus said he's always eating so he reckons it must have been David.
They then told Bea what they thought & she basically started it all off in the kitchen with her comments!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by golden

Vicky, did you see the lf when it started? Marcus & Freddie by the pool. Marcus saying he 'thinks' it must've been David. David makes the mistake of mentioning he's hungry a lot & Marcus said he's always eating so he reckons it must have been David.
They then told Bea what they thought & she basically started it all off in the kitchen with her comments!

Freddie said he thought it was david, not marcus.

Also though Marcus was saying about the eggs later on from this, working it out and coming to the conclusion that it must be david, from how many he ate, and how many he had, and how many had gone missing.

Bea shouldnt have got involved (Im sick of saying this about different things, whish shed just ****) but Marcus had a point. Yes freddie said he THOUGHT it was david, but after this marcus said that it was. And i believe him

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta


Of course Bea has pushed Freddie in this direction of thinking, but that doesn't excuse his attack on David there in front of everyone. It was a moment of stupidity on his part, and kinda illustrates where his mind is right now. And it's not a good place to be.

Again though, we dont know what triggered the whole thing, as that video clearly begins in the middle of it.

Maybe he was planning to say something later on, but the conversation had been steered that way, so he said it then. We dont know, unless they show the whole thing tomorrow, which I doubt they will

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Again though, we dont know what triggered the whole thing, as that video clearly begins in the middle of it.

Maybe he was planning to say something later on, but the conversation had been steered that way, so he said it then. We dont know, unless they show the whole thing tomorrow, which I doubt they will

Yes true, but it still came across as unwarranted, tactless and infantile. Really looked like a tit in that clip.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Again though, we dont know what triggered the whole thing, as that video clearly begins in the middle of it.

Maybe he was planning to say something later on, but the conversation had been steered that way, so he said it then. We dont know, unless they show the whole thing tomorrow, which I doubt they will

[AhmedFan2004]

Freddie bullying David is infact ...

Bea bullying David, but Freddie is the one doing her dirty work.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta

Yes true, but it still came across as unwarranted, tactless and infantile. Really looked like a tit in that clip.

I feel we will have to agree to disagree, as this could go on all night.

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I feel we will have to agree to disagree, as this could go on all night.

Yep, think so. He was a tit in that clip though. lol

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Freddie bullying David is infact ...

Bea bullying David, but Freddie is the one doing her dirty work.

FREDDIE IS NOT BULLYING DAVID.

How on earth is that bullying? Expressing his views...

[HarryRag]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Freddie bullying David is infact ...

Bea bullying David, but Freddie is the one doing her dirty work.

[golden]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Freddie said he thought it was david, not marcus.

Also though Marcus was saying about the eggs later on from this, working it out and coming to the conclusion that it must be david, from how many he ate, and how many he had, and how many had gone missing.

Bea shouldnt have got involved (Im sick of saying this about different things, whish shed just ****) but Marcus had a point. Yes freddie said he THOUGHT it was david, but after this marcus said that it was. And i believe him

I didn't say Freddie thought it was Marcus....but what I'm trying o say is that it was all based on Marcus' feeling & what he concluded from that. I'm just annoyed that it was basically Bea stirring up **** again (lol I agree with u on that) about stuff that she did not see happen. People are annoyed with Freddie cos he didn't see it happen either.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by golden

I didn't say Freddie thought it was Marcus....but what I'm trying o say is that it was all based on Marcus' feeling & what he concluded from that. I'm just annoyed that it was basically Bea stirring up **** again (lol I agree with u on that) about stuff that she did not see happen. People are annoyed with Freddie cos he didn't see it happen either.

I meant freddie said he thought it was david, not freddie thought it was marcus

And on LF right now, marcus is explaining the whole food situation.

[HarryRag]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

They aren't his views though. That's the crux of it. And they make no logical sense. He's utterly delusional and blinded to Bea's manipulation, martyr act, lies, bad intentions and c*ck teasing.

The dude sits there at the bus stop wearing a suit, waiting for her to come out. OHHH DEAR!

Srees gone anyway, don't listen this clown

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

They aren't his views though. That's the crux of it. And they make no logical sense. He's utterly delusional and blinded to Bea's manipulation, martyr act, lies, bad intentions and c*ck teasing.

The dude sits there at the bus stop wearing a suit, waiting for her to come out. OHHH DEAR!

They arent his views that david and lisa are bullying bea? That david knew what lisa was like because he had watched it?

He thinks david has a gameplan by siding with lisa and picking off people to be up for eviction...again

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

FREDDIE IS NOT BULLYING DAVID.

How on earth is that bullying? Expressing his views...

They aren't his views though. That's the crux of it. And they make no logical sense.

David makes friends with those he gets on with and has things in common with ... JUST LIKE HALFWIT DOES! But Halfwit's so hypocritical right now. He's utterly delusional and blinded to Bea's manipulation, martyr act, lies, bad intentions and c*ck teasing.

If anything, David befriending Lisa shows loyalty and shows that he doesn't make friends with popular people in order to ride to the final! But Bea does.

Freddie now sits at the bus stop wearing a suit, waiting for Bea to come out in order to get belittled and embarassed by her. OHHH DEAR!

[Shasown]

Try this , Bea started the rumour to freddie knowing it would go to marcus, he metnions it to bea, she does the moral indignation garbage.

its not the first time she has played them all like this.

The other thing is 3 of them in the kitchen and David, Freddie is asking David why he made friends with Lisa and talks about her isolating others earlier to pick them off. Isnt that what Freddie is trying to do with those around Lisa so as to isolate Lisa, doesnt that make him no better than her?


And if you were David at the time knowing they sit and talk about you and make up lies about him etc, would you not feel they were picking on you/bullying?

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ

They arent his views that david and lisa are bullying bea? That david knew what lisa was like because he had watched it?

He thinks david has a gameplan by siding with lisa and picking off people to be up for eviction...again

But that idea is so full of holes it's ridiculous. He's lost the plot completely.

[setanta]

Originally posted by Shasown
Try this , Bea started the rumour to freddie knowing it would go to marcus, he metnions it to bea, she does the moral indignation garbage.

its not the first time she has played them all like this.

The other thing is 3 of them in the kitchen and David, Freddie is asking David why he made friends with Lisa and talks about her isolating others earlier to pick them off. Isnt that what Freddie is trying to do with those around Lisa so as to isolate Lisa, doesnt that make him no better than her?


And if you were David at the time knowing they sit and talk about you and make up lies about him etc, would you not feel they were picking on you/bullying?

Well said.

[golden]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I meant freddie said he thought it was david, not freddie thought it was marcus

And on LF right now, marcus is explaining the whole food situation.

Our lf has been on Marcus alone for the past 15 minutes...now showing Siavash sleeping in the living room.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by golden

Our lf has been on Marcus alone for the past 15 minutes...now showing Siavash sleeping in the living room.

i'm watching +1 and marcus was talking to sophie about the food thing. it did miss out part of the conversation though coz it started showing charlie and rodrigo in bed. was annoyed coz it switched when he was explaining why he thought bea might end up going this week for the way she handles things

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Shasown
Try this , Bea started the rumour to freddie knowing it would go to marcus, he metnions it to bea, she does the moral indignation garbage.

its not the first time she has played them all like this.

The other thing is 3 of them in the kitchen and David, Freddie is asking David why he made friends with Lisa and talks about her isolating others earlier to pick them off. Isnt that what Freddie is trying to do with those around Lisa so as to isolate Lisa, doesnt that make him no better than her?


And if you were David at the time knowing they sit and talk about you and make up lies about him etc, would you not feel they were picking on you/bullying?

Bea started it all, indirectly, yea, Ive already said that.

I dont blame freddie one bit for attempting to isolate lisa, if this is indeed what he trying to do. She deserves everything she gets in my opinion. However I feel he just doesnt want her starting all her b*llocks up again, just because she has people behind her.

What lies have been made up about David? They sit and talk about everyone all the time, theres nothing else to do.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Shasown
Try this , Bea started the rumour to freddie knowing it would go to marcus, he metnions it to bea, she does the moral indignation garbage.

its not the first time she has played them all like this.

The other thing is 3 of them in the kitchen and David, Freddie is asking David why he made friends with Lisa and talks about her isolating others earlier to pick them off. Isnt that what Freddie is trying to do with those around Lisa so as to isolate Lisa, doesnt that make him no better than her?


And if you were David at the time knowing they sit and talk about you and make up lies about him etc, would you not feel they were picking on you/bullying?

Exactly, he's so disillusioned and entrenched in appeasing Bea and keeping up this fantasy of his perfect, sweet, new girlfriend, that he's operating through her intentions and losing all rationale and logic.

He will now say anything, no matter how ridiculous, just to do as she wishes. He has been manipulated and deceived maximally, yet won't accept it.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by golden

Our lf has been on Marcus alone for the past 15 minutes...now showing Siavash sleeping in the living room.

I dont know which LF you are watching, Im on E4 I think...

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I dont know which LF you are watching, Im on E4 I think...

think you're watching e4 +1 like me

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
They arent his views that david and lisa are bullying bea? That david knew what lisa was like because he had watched it?

He thinks david has a gameplan by siding with lisa and picking off people to be up for eviction...again

He's just operating through Bea's intentions, he has become so delusional and mesmorized by her ways that he'll say anything to appease her. Even if it is ery hypocritical and delusional.

- He never points out how Bea goes around b*tching to people and maing derogatory remarks. Yet he sufferred this in weeks 1-6.

- He never points out how Bea spreads rumours and lies and talks about others belittlingly, even though he suffered this in weeks 1-6.

- He never points out that people make friends with those they share things in common with; just like he did with Bea, and David did with Lisa.

- He won't talk logically, by saying that David befriending Lisa was brave based on outwise world info.

- He won't accept how Bea being nominated implies that it's not just David and Lisa who are against her. He still won't smell the coffee.

He is wittling away and degrading into a worse character, just like his love chances with Bea are going down the pan. Bea sucks.