[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by luminoussun
My sister is a lesbian and she hates lisa more then i do so maybe she is homophobic??

Just Lisaphobic perhaps.

[ange7]

Originally posted by jet

I asked that people READ THE THREAD - I was not commenting on the title itself.....
Unbelievable, how some people can't comprehend a simple sentence. *sigh*

lol because we're sooooo stupid and YOUR soooo clever hehehe lol@*sigh*

[jet]

Originally posted by luminoussun
My sister is a lesbian and she hates lisa more then i do so maybe she is homophobic??

Does she make vile homophobic comments about her and other homosexuals? If not, then no.

[virtuoso88]

Originally posted by jet
For those that deny there is prejudice on this forum about Lisa's sexuality, and therefore against all homosexuals, read the thread
'Lisa: Roughest Ugliest Lesbian I've Ever Seen....' -

....you'll find plenty of homophobic comments in there. And that's just ONE Lisa thread.

Actually, a moron is someone who thinks that just because people hate Lisa and her display of her sexuality (like claiming she can turn any woman gay) that it automatically extends into homophobia.

Moron.

[jet]

Originally posted by ange7

lol because we're sooooo stupid and YOUR soooo clever hehehe lol@*sigh*

Seems like it.

[jet]

Originally posted by virtuoso88

Actually, a moron is someone who thinks that just because people hate Lisa and her display of her sexuality (like claiming she can turn any woman gay) that it automatically extends into homophobia.

Moron.

Where did I say that? Nowhere. I am well aware that people can hate Lisa and NOT because of her sexuality. I am also well aware that some people hate her, or hate her more than they otherwise would, BECAUSE of her sexuality. There is proof of that in many threads on this forum.

[ange7]

Originally posted by jet

Seems like it.

[PooBay]

*****aphobia?

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by virtuoso88
Well, Lisa is rough-looking, she's ugly as hell and she's a lesbian...that's homophobic in your book?

HATING her for THAT REASON is HOMOPHOBIC.

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by luminoussun
My sister is a lesbian and she hates lisa more then i do so maybe she is homophobic??

Is your sister butch?

[davidalbert]

Oh dear..... bringing in the homophobic card is a desperate meaure by desperate people....I'm a 53 year old gay man, never kissed or been with a woman, but I think Lisa is trapped in a LESBIAN CLONE TIMEWARP.......please those piercings!! so outmoded.........the Mohican she came in with....so outmoded ...........she says she has had 55 mainly striaght women...............all that counting of one's conquests, so desperate and outmoded!..........she would be much nicer if she could accept her femininity....please may she go tonight!

[BB22]

Originally posted by h3llb1tch

Is your sister butch?

That is a very strange comment under the circumstances.

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by davidalbert
Oh dear..... bringing in the homophobic card is a desperate meaure by desperate people....I'm a 53 year old gay man, never kissed or been with a woman, but I think Lisa is trapped in a LESBIAN CLONE TIMEWARP.......please those piercings!! so outmoded.........the Mohican she came in with....so outmoded ...........she says she has had 55 mainly striaght women...............all that counting of one's conquests, so desperate and outmoded!..........she would be much nicer if she could accept her femininity....please may she go tonight!

So just because she does not conform to the social norms of attractiveness, it is acceptable to HATE her for that reason?

Butch lesbians are discriminated against heavily by society.
I suspect Lisa has experienced more bullying in her lifetime than clueless Halfwit can ever imagine.

Just because someone is gay does not stop them from being homophobic towards others in their community. Many gay men hate butch lesbians...

[virtuoso88]

Originally posted by jet

Where did I say that? Nowhere. I am well aware that people can hate Lisa and NOT because of her sexuality. I am also well aware that some people hate her, or hate her more than they otherwise would, BECAUSE of her sexuality. There is proof of that in many threads on this forum.

It's in BOLD as part of your statement.

Go right ahead, twist and contort yourself defending making such an idiotic generalization about the people who hate Lisa. You just dig deeper your own grave.

[virtuoso88]

Originally posted by h3llb1tch

HATING her for THAT REASON is HOMOPHOBIC.

Er, actually, I despise that cow for so many other reasons. I wrote those as an observation about her. Stop throwing the homophobia card around. Desperation in your defense of that slug Lisa makes you do that.

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by BB22

That is a very strange comment under the circumstances.

No, it's not.
Many lipstick lesbians hate butch lesbians because butch lesbians are associated with the "aggressive, man hating" stereotype.

A stereotype lipstick lesbians do not want to be associated with. They think the "butches" give them a bad name. It's a lesbian class system with the butches at the bottom.

[BB22]

Originally posted by h3llb1tch

No, it's not.
Many lipstick lesbians hate butch lesbians because butch lesbians are associated with the "aggressive, man hating" stereotype.

A stereotype lipstick lesbians do not want to be associated with. They think the "butches" give them a bad name. It's a lesbian class system with the butches at the bottom.

I'll take your word for it.

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by virtuoso88

Er, actually, I despise that cow for so many other reasons. I wrote those as an observation about her. Stop throwing the homophobia card around. Desperation in your defense of that slug Lisa makes you do that.

But let's face it.
Rough-looking, ugly as hell and lesbian would be at the TOP of your list of reasons to hate her.

[virtuoso88]

And I will say it again: Lisa is a rough-looking, ugly as hell lesbian.

If you think that's a homophobic statement without knowing whether I am gay or straight clearly shows you to be a fool. I suppose any observation made about any gay person now can be considered as homophobic by these pathetic Lisa defenders.

Desperation is in the air for the Lisa fans because they know in their twisted little hearts that Lisa is disliked by the public and has a good chance of getting evicted tonight.

[BB22]

This thread has completely deteriorated. I mean the original post has been torn to pieces and basically refuted and now the argument is just about ridiculous fragments mingled with a series of accusations about other forum members.

[Shaun]

I hate her for being a loudmouth, simple, bullying moron, nothing to do with her sexuality.

[hennessy]

are you a butch lesbian by any chance?
I've reviewed the above sentence and can't see anything homophobic about it

[virtuoso88]

Originally posted by h3llb1tch

But let's face it.
Rough-looking, ugly as hell and lesbian would be at the TOP of your list of reasons to hate her.

No. Actually, I despise her most for the bully that she was to Freddie in the first several weeks of the show.

You need to stop projecting your own biases onto other people. It is rather unbecoming of you.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally posted by BB22
This thread has completely deteriorated. I mean the original post has been torn to pieces and basically refuted and now the argument is just about ridiculous fragments mingled with a series of accusations about other forum members.

Sadly I agree.

But the provocative nature of the thread is asking people who hate Lisa to look at their motives.

It's expected that people will try to prove their dislike isn't because of deep rooted prejudices.

[h3llb1tch]

Originally posted by virtuoso88
And I will say it again: Lisa is a rough-looking, ugly as hell lesbian.

If you think that's a homophobic statement without knowing whether I am gay or straight clearly shows you to be a fool.

I don't need to know your sexual orientation.
Gay people can hate other gay people.
When that hatred is based on personal characteristics, eg. butchness then that is still homophobia.