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Harry! · 30-09-2009, 07:23 PM

No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 07:29 PM

[rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 07:29 PM

[rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite

Princess · 30-09-2009, 07:33 PM

[rquote=2616162&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite[/rquote]

OI Quorn is delicious! Some of it has to be drowned in ketchup tbh,but most of it is delish.

Princess · 30-09-2009, 07:33 PM

[rquote=2616162&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite[/rquote]

OI Quorn is delicious! Some of it has to be drowned in ketchup tbh,but most of it is delish.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:34 PM

[rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:34 PM

[rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 07:34 PM

[rquote=2616166&tid=148326&author=Princess][rquote=2616162&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite[/rquote]

OI Quorn is delicious! Some of it has to be drowned in ketchup tbh,but most of it is delish.[/rquote]lol I dont like it personally, although I did have some Quorn mince meat in a Chilli Con Carne, I admit, I couldnt tell the difference there

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 07:34 PM

[rquote=2616166&tid=148326&author=Princess][rquote=2616162&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616145&tid=148326&author=InOne]These days there is no good argument for eating meat tbh.[/rquote]

Yeah, there is, it tastes good, and its good for you

Not everybody wants that nasty Quorn shite[/rquote]

OI Quorn is delicious! Some of it has to be drowned in ketchup tbh,but most of it is delish.[/rquote]lol I dont like it personally, although I did have some Quorn mince meat in a Chilli Con Carne, I admit, I couldnt tell the difference there

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 07:38 PM

[rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 07:38 PM

[rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:44 PM

[rquote=2616180&tid=148326&author=Harry.][rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.[/rquote]
Yes, but that has not happened. New word for you : reality. Your using other animals evolving to become smarter than us as a genuine argument? Have you any idea how long evolution of that magnitude would take? Billions of years. And would it suddenly make it right for us to be killed and eaten then if there was something smarter than us? You essentially just created another argument against yourself.

We can still be eaten, therefore we are wild? That's not an argument. Thats a fallacious statement. Your not in any severe risk of being eaten unless you venture outside of the CIVILIZED SOCIETY we have built to PROTECT OURSELVES from such things. Because we are smart. Because we are not wild and instinctual.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:44 PM

[rquote=2616180&tid=148326&author=Harry.][rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.[/rquote]
Yes, but that has not happened. New word for you : reality. Your using other animals evolving to become smarter than us as a genuine argument? Have you any idea how long evolution of that magnitude would take? Billions of years. And would it suddenly make it right for us to be killed and eaten then if there was something smarter than us? You essentially just created another argument against yourself.

We can still be eaten, therefore we are wild? That's not an argument. Thats a fallacious statement. Your not in any severe risk of being eaten unless you venture outside of the CIVILIZED SOCIETY we have built to PROTECT OURSELVES from such things. Because we are smart. Because we are not wild and instinctual.

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 07:50 PM

[rquote=2616204&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616180&tid=148326&author=Harry.][rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.[/rquote]
Yes, but that has not happened. New word for you : reality. Your using other animals evolving to become smarter than us as a genuine argument? Have you any idea how long evolution of that magnitude would take? Billions of years. And would it suddenly make it right for us to be killed and eaten then if there was something smarter than us? You essentially just created another argument against yourself.

We can still be eaten, therefore we are wild? That's not an argument. Thats a fallacious statement. Your not in any severe risk of being eaten unless you venture outside of the CIVILIZED SOCIETY we have built to PROTECT OURSELVES from such things. Because we are smart. Because we are not wild and instinctual. [/rquote]

What about people in Africa? In there contry do they stand greatar risk because of the animals who live there?

You are thinking too much about the UK and what the UK enviroment holds. Of corse no creatures can kill us here but others sure can in other countrys.

Just stop twittering on please about CIVILIZED SOCIETY . As I have said we are wild and if in a different country can be more at danger from attack.

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 07:50 PM

[rquote=2616204&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616180&tid=148326&author=Harry.][rquote=2616169&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2616152&tid=148326&author=Harry.]No I havn't proven YOUR point. That was only part 1.

Think of a Lion, The males hunt and catch the food, Then the female gets (prepares) it later.

I can imagine other animals prepare food but that was a basic example.[/rquote]
Farmers don't hunt. They farm. Hence the term 'farmer' Sorry to break it to you.

When a lion catches meat and, as you put it, 'prepares' it, it catches the animal with it's teeth. Alive. And they tend not to season it, add chemical preservatives, and package it to sell in Safari Tesco.

Because they are wild. And we are not wild.[/rquote]

Because we have developed techniques to prepare food. We can still be eaten. Therefore we are wild. We can become battery chickens (humans) if was possible that another species evolved to become better then us. New word for you. Evolution.[/rquote]
Yes, but that has not happened. New word for you : reality. Your using other animals evolving to become smarter than us as a genuine argument? Have you any idea how long evolution of that magnitude would take? Billions of years. And would it suddenly make it right for us to be killed and eaten then if there was something smarter than us? You essentially just created another argument against yourself.

We can still be eaten, therefore we are wild? That's not an argument. Thats a fallacious statement. Your not in any severe risk of being eaten unless you venture outside of the CIVILIZED SOCIETY we have built to PROTECT OURSELVES from such things. Because we are smart. Because we are not wild and instinctual. [/rquote]

What about people in Africa? In there contry do they stand greatar risk because of the animals who live there?

You are thinking too much about the UK and what the UK enviroment holds. Of corse no creatures can kill us here but others sure can in other countrys.

Just stop twittering on please about CIVILIZED SOCIETY . As I have said we are wild and if in a different country can be more at danger from attack.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:58 PM

There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 07:58 PM

There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 08:00 PM

[rquote=2616264&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight]There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.[/rquote]

So...these kids can protect themselves from Lions and tigers?

No, thought not

Scarlett. · 30-09-2009, 08:00 PM

[rquote=2616264&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight]There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.[/rquote]

So...these kids can protect themselves from Lions and tigers?

No, thought not

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

Because we have the technology to do so. We could if we wanted. And bears can not breed fish because they havnt got the technology but they can catch it well.

We could bite animals in the wild , it is possible to do so. But because of laws we can not do so. Therfore we have wild traits.

Harry! · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

Because we have the technology to do so. We could if we wanted. And bears can not breed fish because they havnt got the technology but they can catch it well.

We could bite animals in the wild , it is possible to do so. But because of laws we can not do so. Therfore we have wild traits.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

[rquote=2616274&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616264&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight]There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.[/rquote]

So...these kids can protect themselves from Lions and tigers?

No, thought not[/rquote]
Do they form the majority of the make up of the world we live in?

No. Thought not. In fact, it is a damn shame and a tragedy that as a civilized society there is still so much poverty and inequality. Plus I ALREADY alluded to tribal existence.

*sigh*

Stu · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

[rquote=2616274&tid=148326&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2616264&tid=148326&author=ProbeEight]There are plenty of tribes still in the world, but civilization exists in Africa, too, Harry. Good god man. Null argument. I am thinking of this from a global perspective. Globally speaking, we are not wild. We are an advanced society. We are not instinctual with approach to everything. We have ego. We can understand our world. We record history and create art.

We. Are. Not. Wild.

If you were wild, YOU would be catching YOUR own food out in THE WILD with your teeth. A farmer would not be growing and breeding it for you.

Do Bears breed Salmon? No. They cant. Because they are wild. And we ... are not wild.[/rquote]

So...these kids can protect themselves from Lions and tigers?

No, thought not[/rquote]
Do they form the majority of the make up of the world we live in?

No. Thought not. In fact, it is a damn shame and a tragedy that as a civilized society there is still so much poverty and inequality. Plus I ALREADY alluded to tribal existence.

*sigh*

Stu · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

[rquote=2616277&tid=148326&author=Harry.]Because we have the technology to do so. We could if we wanted. And bears can not breed fish because they havnt got the technology but they can catch it well.

We could bite animals in the wild , it is possible to do so. But because of laws we can not do so. Therfore we have wild traits.[/rquote]
No, therefore we do NOT have wild traits. We have law. And technology.

Your arguing FOR me at this stage. WILD ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE LAW AND TECHNOLOGY.

Stu · 30-09-2009, 08:02 PM

[rquote=2616277&tid=148326&author=Harry.]Because we have the technology to do so. We could if we wanted. And bears can not breed fish because they havnt got the technology but they can catch it well.

We could bite animals in the wild , it is possible to do so. But because of laws we can not do so. Therfore we have wild traits.[/rquote]
No, therefore we do NOT have wild traits. We have law. And technology.

Your arguing FOR me at this stage. WILD ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE LAW AND TECHNOLOGY.

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