[Vicky.]

And andyman...your new avatar...scares the **** out of me

[andyman]

Don't worry he can't get you..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im sorry, but if anything women have it EASIER than men. They can do less work and then cry underpaid, get a raise. And especially in the eyes of the law, how many women are convicted for husband-beating? And yes it does happen, probably more common that you realise. More chance to get let off with other offenses too, if they have children, whilst I highly doubt a bloke would get let off with something because he had kids.

So we have to out up with a little **** from kids, women are slags, men are studs and the likes...so what? Ignorant view, certainly, but not something to get your frilly pink knickers in a twist over. People have opinions, some you like, some you dont...it happens.

Rubbish! I think you will find that women (with children) are disproportionately sent to prison for lesser offences than men - quite a few have been sent to prison for not having a tv licence! There has been a quite a lot of discussion about the unfairness of it!

And where does the less work bit come from - surely not what some unknown girl says on some video - it is common knowledge that women have been paid less than men for doing the same work - for decades. They have every right to object to that! If men do put in longer hours sometimes - maybe, just maybe - that is because they take longer to do the same amount of work! Ha, ha.

I don't know if you work - but there are many more women than men that have to come home, after a long day at work, only to start work again on the home and looking after the kids! I don't call that easier!

[andyman]

BS! The problem is in your head.. Or that chip getting bigger?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by andyman

BS! The problem is in your head.. Or that chip getting bigger?

It isn't me that has the chip! And the problem certainly is not in my head - perhaps you live with your head in the clouds!

[andyman]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It isn't me that has the chip! And the problem certainly is not in my head - perhaps you live with your head in the clouds!

Don't be silly love..

You insult women that are happy to stay at home mothers.. Your issues are in your head but you do have a legal right to spit it out, [no pun love]...

What is your utopia? .. But to be fair your wacky views could be valid overseas.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by andyman

Don't be silly love..

You insult women that are happy to stay at home mothers.. Your issues are in your head but you do have a legal right to spit it out, [no pun love]...

What is your utopia? .. But to be fair your wacky views could be valid overseas.

I don't insult women that stay at home - not when they have young children to look after! Nothing wrong with that!

You really do feel threatened by independent women who stand up for their rights, don't you - and do your best to undermine them with remarks like love, and calling their opinions wacky. What is wacky about believing in equality? It is those that want to be 'top dog' all the time - that are truly deluded and wacky, love!

[andyman]

And where do the problems lay today? Did ask before but your reply was poor..

No you have a problem with men, hence the way you think.. Love nothing wrong with calling you love.. Is there?

If you wanted true eqaulity then it should be for all insted of your pro women tunnel vision.. We're both human and both have the rights to be treated the same, so really you should adress both problems like female cheaper car insurance, fathers rights over his kids.. Eqaulity she be a fair playing field and not to favour one sex over the other.

Plus you do know that women have it better now than 50 years ago.. Women have high profile jobs based on their skills in all types of jobs, time off work after giving birth, protected by laws if sexual discriminated against, women being in more control of their future and income unlike their grandmothers... More women in high political jobs, unthinkable at one time.

[cupid stunt]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Rubbish! I think you will find that women (with children) are disproportionately sent to prison for lesser offences than men - quite a few have been sent to prison for not having a tv licence! There has been a quite a lot of discussion about the unfairness of it!

And where does the less work bit come from - surely not what some unknown girl says on some video - it is common knowledge that women have been paid less than men for doing the same work - for decades. They have every right to object to that! If men do put in longer hours sometimes - maybe, just maybe - that is because they take longer to do the same amount of work! Ha, ha.

I don't know if you work - but there are many more women than men that have to come home, after a long day at work, only to start work again on the home and looking after the kids! I don't call that easier!

go n live in pakistan if u dont like it luv, see how far u get wi your bullsh.it there

[bananarama]

When comparing the male and female brain size arn't they looking in the wrong place with regard to men.. We all know where their brains are..........

[andyman]

That is very insulting.. Lol. Wombai will agree with because it does not insult women..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

go n live in pakistan if u dont like it luv, see how far u get wi your bullsh.it there

I sound far more English than you - maybe you should go there with your ridiculous, can't even call them arguments, childlike, simpleton bull**** - and find yourself a woman who will just do as she is told - much more your type I think!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by andyman

And where do the problems lay today? Did ask before but your reply was poor..

No you have a problem with men, hence the way you think.. Love nothing wrong with calling you love.. Is there?

If you wanted true eqaulity then it should be for all insted of your pro women tunnel vision.. We're both human and both have the rights to be treated the same, so really you should adress both problems like female cheaper car insurance, fathers rights over his kids.. Eqaulity she be a fair playing field and not to favour one sex over the other.

Plus you do know that women have it better now than 50 years ago.. Women have high profile jobs based on their skills in all types of jobs, time off work after giving birth, protected by laws if sexual discriminated against, women being in more control of their future and income unlike their grandmothers... More women in high political jobs, unthinkable at one time.

I do want equality for all - when did I say I didn't - it is people like you, it seems, that don't want equality for women. If you bother to read back in the thread you will see I have made it perfectly clear that I believe in equality of the sexes - not women being superior to men.

And yes, of course things have improved enormously - but there is still not equality in many areas.

[andyman]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I do want equality for all - when did I say I didn't - it is people like you, it seems, that don't want equality for women. If you bother to read back in the thread you will see I have made it perfectly clear that I believe in equality of the sexes - not women being superior to men.

And yes, of course things have improved enormously - but there is still not equality in many areas.

There can be a downside tho, companies employing women just to make the numbers up.. Has happend in the US but is very rare.

Is it fair in TV ads targeted at women that show men being dumb? "Even a man can do it" and such ads.. I don't mind such ads but the PC bs could spill into everyday life and make it wrong to call a woman a bird.. Even M&S had to remove the "bit of skirt" bit from their ad..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by andyman

There can be a downside tho, companies employing women just to make the numbers up.. Has happend in the US but is very rare.

Is it fair in TV ads targeted at women that show men being dumb? "Even a man can do it" and such ads.. I don't mind such ads but the PC bs could spill into everyday life and make it wrong to call a woman a bird.. Even M&S had to remove the "bit of skirt" bit from their ad..

I see your point - but men have been calling women dumb for decades - it is just a bit of tit for tat! And yes many women don't like being called things such as a 'bird' - it is a word used in a derogatory way - and as a man who hasn't been on the receiving end of it - then hardly surprising that you don't understand!

[andyman]

Women also use words such as.. "be a man" "a real man".. Is that fair? Not all women share your views and enjoy banter between the sexes..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by andyman

Women also use words such as.. "be a man" "a real man".. Is that fair? Not all women share your views and enjoy banter between the sexes..

To me a real man is a guy who has no problem with living and working with women on an equal footing! Far more attractive than some guy constantly making sexist remarks and putdowns! Of course - should apply both ways!

[andyman]

I think most men enjoy working with women..