[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

Yeah I know she didn't say that, but she's basically posted before that he's hated by the public. And forum polls don't represent the entire public - where was Sophie on the polls this time last year?

He is not a well liked hm - however you try to dress it up! Never likely to be either - this is the final series - it deserves a deserving winner!

[Chels]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

I don't know, probably about middle to the bottom, which would make sense seeing as had the winner been announced on Day 26, Sophie would not have won. Just because results change over the course of the series does not make the polls inaccurate.

That's sort of my point - Freddie was raping the polls as was Ben at this point and look what happened to him! Ben's ego will end up as big as his hair eventually.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Chels

That's sort of my point - Freddie was raping the polls as was Ben at this point and look what happened to him! Ben's ego will end up as big as his hair eventually.

Well then I think your point is a tad misguided seeing as I never implied that Ben would win just that he was clearly vastly more popular than Nathan.

[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He is not a well liked hm - however you try to dress it up! Never likely to be either - this is the final series - it deserves a deserving winner!

Did I say he was? No. And how do you know whether he'll end up being liked or not? Sophie from last year was a prime example of this.

[Chels]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Well then I think your point is a tad misguided seeing as I never implied that Ben would win just that he was clearly vastly more popular than Nathan.

I knew that's what you were trying to say and I didn't disagree. I was taking the point from where you said the "polls may not be correct but they're accurate" or something like that, I cba to go back and look.

[MrBlack]

ppl should relax at arguing over Nathan.

and just look at him. and laugh.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

Did I say he was? No. And how do you know whether he'll end up being liked or not? Sophie from last year was a prime example of this.

And in most people's book - she wasn't a deserving winner! We want a strong, clear-cut winner, if poss, an indiviudal with a personality and that definitely isn't Nathan!

[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

And in most people's book - she wasn't a deserving winner! We want a strong, clear-cut winner, if poss, an indiviudal with a personality and that definitely isn't Nathan!

We haven't even seen him properly yet, still too early to judge certain people I think. Steve and Ife included.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Chels

We haven't even seen him properly yet, still too early to judge certain people I think. Steve and Ife included.

Nathan and even Steve are starting to grow as personalities as more leave.

I am not a supporter of his to win, but I am glad he has stopped his radar dodging now and is taking some risks by getting involved.

He has more to give I think, unlike someone like Corin that is still very much on the low down in an effort to get to the end.

[Braden]

I'm disliking him more now, he's turning into an arrogant bore. He's obviously gutted that he doesn't have Josie so he's getting angry

[Amhuinn]

I don't have to hate Ben to like Nathan and liking Nathan doesn't meant that I think he will win, or that I agree with everything he does. I just like him (mostly). I still also quite like Ben.

I do think that people are very hypocritical when it comes to judging Nathan though. They tend to apply a rigid negative filter to his every word and action. He is judged by his appearance and how he speaks, rather than the content of what he is saying. Whilst Ben speaks in the manner of a politician and is able to use eloquent language in a manner which obscures its meaning.

Ben might have had some relevent points and Nathan some overly simplistic ones, but I do feel that Nathan's political point of view corresponds more closely with my own beliefs.