[ange7]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

Ben brought it up NOT JJ...

"he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben." This isn't a contradiction Stoney hehe
lol firewire, Stoney thinks his made a point but actually made yours for you.

"to attack ben"
awwww poor Ben. The one who started with the unemployed dig and then "your so stupid JJ". And JJ defends himself but for that he's the attacker lol. Ben can't answer and won't apologise ( even in his usual mealy mouthed way) so JJ repeats it till Ben concedes. Obviously Ben won't admit to being wrong when it involves the "lesser" JJ which means more fun for us as Ben ummms and arrrs. Loved it.

[Julesuk]

the pure fact that some people have made the comments that they have show that they detest JJ and doesnt matter what happens they will always find negative in him. His a - gameplayer and will do anything to win - wouldnt ***** the public stop him from winning and make the other housemates nominate him??????? Hats off to you JJ, Ben was totally in the wrong he has no right to judge any of the housemates reference their home life, employment status etc etc ( I would be saying this no matter which housemate he said it about) I am actually beginning to think Ben is the one with issues he continually discusses JJ with Dave in the snug its almost like his obsessed with the bloke or more likely sees him as a threat

[Julesuk]

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

The end of the HL show was amusing - Benny boy wingeing in the DR then cut to closing titles and Marcus Bentley overvoice "tune-in tomorrow for more Ben fun"

[joeysteele]

John James I hope has shot himself in the foot after his ranting like madman and his foul grossly offensive comments as to the UL viewing public. If they have any sense he will not win. I hope Ben does win but I rarely get the winner I wnat of BB but in the end if Bne is not going to win then I just hope anyone other than Steve and particularly John James wins and that isa complete turnaround for me since at the very start of BB11, John James, Ben,Josie and Corin were my favourites.
Ben is still my absolute favourite in the house, I am sick of Josie whining so much but she has spent alot of time with JJ so its not surprising,Corin I still like because like Bne she is not a pack followerl she does her own thing and I think I have made it clear that JJ has lummneted in my estimation of him and I rate him as one of the worst housemates ever on BB and he is certainly the very forst ever to with foul language insult and offend the British viewing public directly.
There are always arguments in the BB series, some get out of hand, repeatedly disruptive housemates in the past have bben dealt with heavily by BB, this is the last series so BB seems not bothered what goes on much now, but I still hope they will take JJ to task for his offence to the British viewers, that was totally out of order, and Ben was right to say let the public decide,because it is a show ehere the public does decide who goes out, who stays in and who eventually wins and get the prize, if JJ doesn't understand that and so says f... the public and he doesn't give a f... for the public then really its very simple ,he should be in the house at all.

[Julesuk]

I just dont get bens support or how people can justify him being a good housemate, he does nothing but pull people apart - I can only think people find him funny because his upper class and find it amusing the way he speaks he has to be the laziest un game player ever on BB he just is not prepared to budge on anything he doesnt want to do.

[Tessier Ashpool]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

Yeah, that did Ben no favours. Showed him to be a slippery, back-stabby character - definitely played that out for the cameras to get some JJ hate going. I think that will have a large effect on Ben's popularity.
His personality makes me suspect he can be a sleaze, but it's different seeing it in action - not so cuddly now

[Julesuk]

but I still hope they will take JJ to task for his offence to the British viewers, that was totally out of order, and Ben was right to say let the public decide

Why?
Why should the public decide that JJ dietry habits are wrong, its wrong he doesnt work, etc etc - Ben was the one that brought all this up he had no right - yeah discuss eachother but that was just too personnel - No one knows what John James went through when his father died or what personnel issues he has it his right only to disucss these things with fellow housemates should he wish to not Bens and then to justify it by saying - let the public decide - he sees JJ as a threat and knows his quite volitile and the things he said would not bode well with John. I applaud John for his reaction

[joeysteele]

I think its JJ who thinks Bne is the threatm after the stand up comedy task with the crowd cheering Ben, JJ has gobe for him ever since getting more nasty each time, JJ thought his looks would have him walk the series but what he failed to do was get some anger management before he went into the house because all his nastiness, gossiping, troublemaking and then the over the top blowing a fuse over nothing and the onslaught of foul filthy langauge will start to wear thin in time,we are barely halfway through the series yet and he is going to be a paranoaic nightmare the longer he is in.
His temper, his language and his jealosuy of anyone else forming easy going relationships will continue to get his back up more and more.
Juste remember voting public other than JJ diehard fans,when it comes to deciding who gets the prize money and title of the last BB winner,a cash prize your money has helped raise by texts ,calls and other interactive connections to the series, just remember these2 words from John James direcetd to you the public, 'f... you'.

[Julesuk]

You need to understand his comment in the right context he was saying ***** the public Ben, this is you saying these things why bring the public into it. The argument is between us two.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one - I was certainly not offended

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

You need to understand his comment in the right context he was saying ***** the public Ben, this is you saying these things why bring the public into it. The argument is between us two.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one - I was certainly not offended

Benites are clutching at any possible straws cause their hero kicked-off a needless argument

John has a problem with Ben's ubiquitous answer "well the public can decide". John has the problem because Benny-boy's actions are likely to mean 11 people are cold showering n eating sh1te for a week in the meantime before any public vote

What John essentially said is who gives an 'eff of the public vote if you make 11 other people suffer as a consequence of your selfishness

[joeysteele]

didnt sound that way to me or to all the other people I know who watched it and even those who liked JJ were offended and I said I think the majority of viewers not ALL of them would be offended by JJs statement.To some of his supporters on here, he could kill someone in the house and they would still think he should win.

[the-gaffer]

I laugh at everyone who is shocked by his statement, truth be told, Ben is the one playing you for fools, he is the guy who needs to feel loved, he is the guy who is desperate not to be booed, John James like him or loathe him is in there for his own reasons, but not once has he allowed any outside factors get in the way of what he wants to say or how he wants to act.

How many people in that house have wanted to cry/explode/say something out of turn but have managed to hold it in, refrain from doing it, just because they don't want to come across as looking bad on camera, when John James goes, and it could be this week due to his 'outburst' you can be rest assured that he left it all in the house, when Benny boy leaves, and I love Ben as a character by the way, when Ben leaves, you know he has played a massive game from the first moment in the house, people are so fickle