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joeysteele · 14-09-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger

This... ratings only bother me a tiny bit... if I was the only person watching then I might be dissapointed, it was never going to be a mainstream hit again, personally I hope C5 learn from their mistakes and do everything they can next year.

That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

*mazedsalv** · 14-09-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

But I doubt BB will ever be a ratings success anymore. Five have completely shafted the core BB die hard audience, and they will never get them back. No matter what they do, it's too late now. The damage is done.

Omah · 14-09-2011, 11:44 AM

Blimey, at this rate, it'll be less than 1m on Saturday .....

daniel-lewis-1985 · 14-09-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

Bollox!

If this series carries on under 1.5 million it will look disastrous. PERIOD.

This is the chance for them to make an impact and if people have switched off already now by next year it would be completley forgotten about.

joeysteele · 14-09-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

But I doubt BB will ever be a ratings success anymore. Five have completely shafted the core BB die hard audience, and they will never get them back. No matter what they do, it's too late now. The damage is done.

That's mostly right but they have lots of options open to them for next year that can put things right.

CBB for instance is planned again to be on first.CBB got good ratings this year.The figures watching, 5 million at the launch and 3 million for the final.
The idea of BB is still a good one and that proved people will watch it.
The launch of BB itself,only had half a milion less watching.

Now, for whatever reasons, ratings are down but to still higher than what even a lot on here thought they would be, I recall seeing figures of 1 million and even under a million being said.

I don't think it's too late at all. What Channel 5 need to do is make sure BB is massively promoted next year, bring back some live feed or certainly lots more footage of BB and use the CBB series to really capitalise on the changes that will have to be made.

I thnk the 1 to 1.5 million plus there is now watching it still, is near to the hard core audience,I don't think the hard core audience is anything like 1.25 million.

Maybe as many have said on here, people will not be able to relate or attach themselves to these 'really good' overall housemates in this year, because they hardly see them. That was always going to be the problem without more footage. We don't know these people in the house, people don't like that, they want to know and see all they can of people to form opinions of and 'bond' a bit to them. Impossible with only 50 minutes a night covering 14 housemates.

That I believe is why people have gone off this series, that does not mean, (hopefully), they won't watch another though with more footage and better planning.

Jords · 14-09-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Bollox!

If this series carries on under 1.5 million it will look disastrous. PERIOD.

This is the chance for them to make an impact and if people have switched off already now by next year it would be completley forgotten about.

Want a tampon?

joeysteele · 14-09-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Bollox!

If this series carries on under 1.5 million it will look disastrous. PERIOD.

This is the chance for them to make an impact and if people have switched off already now by next year it would be completley forgotten about.

Depends on the actual reasons for not watching it at present. If its because they cannot relate to the housemates by not knowing much about them and also, from such limited footage, not likely to get to know much about them either, then that can easily be put right in a future series.

CBB will be watched next year as it was this year so they still have that platform to use to announce big changes too.

If no changes come, then a more gloomy future,if any. lies ahead.I'd agree to that.

I still stand with the comment, some on here and who I talk to were not even predicting the current ratings,never mind averaging 1.5 million.

If it falls repeatedly below I million, that will be very bad, not disastrous,simply because of the Channel it is on.
Those figures would be unlikely to encourage further series but I am not at that doomwatch stage yet,I can with necessary and well planned changes still see a future for BB albeit possibly on a smaller scale.

CharlieO · 14-09-2011, 12:49 PM

Think, its only the first week. By the end its going to have such few viewers.

Jordan. · 14-09-2011, 02:03 PM

God this is awful

Hopefully its the kick they need to bring back LF for next series though.

MeMyselfAndI · 14-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Dreadful ratings. Ahwell i like this season

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daniel-lewis-1985 · 15-09-2011, 09:05 AM

Wednesday 13th September Overnights
22:00- Big Brother: 1.43m (8.7%)
*5 minute peak: 1.62m

AJ. · 15-09-2011, 09:36 AM

Seems like it's settled around 1.4 with about 400K 16-34. Still expect it to drop again slightly next week though.

daniel-lewis-1985 · 15-09-2011, 09:42 AM

Im dreading seeing Saturdays figures.

Its going to be the 1st time BB has ever fallen below 1 million.

Omah · 15-09-2011, 09:45 AM

The outlook is bleak .....

DigitalSid · 15-09-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Wednesday 13th September Overnights
22:00- Big Brother: 1.43m (8.7%)
*5 minute peak: 1.62m

What time?

DigitalSid · 15-09-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Im dreading seeing Saturdays figures.

Its going to be the 1st time BB has ever fallen below 1 million.

Sunday

joeysteele · 15-09-2011, 12:49 PM

I'm not going to worry as to the ratings for this year now, it is next years that will be more important and I still think all the relevant and necessary changes needed will be in place by then.

I believe this years has been an experiment to see how 'cheaply' it could be done but if that hasn't worked then more will be done for next year.
In order to get Celebrities too to go in the one starting early next year it will need to be shown to them as a show that is believed in and also worth the celebrities while to take part in it.

daniel-lewis-1985 · 15-09-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm not going to worry as to the ratings for this year now, it is next years that will be more important and I still think all the relevant and necessary changes needed will be in place by then.

I believe this years has been an experiment to see how 'cheaply' it could be done but if that hasn't worked then more will be done for next year.
In order to get Celebrities too to go in the one starting early next year it will need to be shown to them as a show that is believed in and also worth the celebrities while to take part in it.

This is not a trial run. This is supposed to be "BIGGEST BROTHER EVER!".

Its supposed to come back with a bang not fizzle out after 3 weeks.

Omah · 15-09-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

This is not a trial run. This is supposed to be "BIGGEST BROTHER EVER!".

Its supposed to come back with a bang not fizzle out after 3 weeks.

I shouldn't laugh but .....

Stu · 15-09-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm not going to worry as to the ratings for this year now, it is next years that will be more important and I still think all the relevant and necessary changes needed will be in place by then.

I believe this years has been an experiment to see how 'cheaply' it could be done but if that hasn't worked then more will be done for next year.
In order to get Celebrities too to go in the one starting early next year it will need to be shown to them as a show that is believed in and also worth the celebrities while to take part in it.

Yeah this two series run of Big Brother is really just a crash test muck about haw haw haw.

Get real.

Mystic Mock · 15-09-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Thanks for stickying this again

Anyway yeah remember before it started we all thought it would only get about 1.4 a night anyway and assumed C5 would be happy with that. I think we just assumed all their other programmes done so **** they would be happy with just a million.

However...looking at Channel 5's ratings there are shows on the schedule that are actually beating BB aka CSI and all prime time show on C5 last night got over 1 million viewers.

BB needed to do something special.

I didnt think CBB8 ratings were great but would kill for them now for BB12.

Such a shame as i think this is going to be the best series in years.

Has any british programmes beat Big Brother on C5? if they havent then dont worry yet as C5 get **** ratings.